Charles ☭ 
is a GreenWoman in the train station: Oh, I don't like the US right now.
Me: I keep trying to get people to stop using Facebook.
Woman: I don't use Facebook!
Me: What messaging software do you use?
Woman: WhatsApp
Me: That's Facebook.
No she actually didn't know and was keen to learn abut Signal.
Well since nothing is perfect unless we all roll our own XMPP servers, the nice older lady in the train station should just keep using WhatsApp. After all what's the point of less metadata collection unless everyone who staffs and runs it is perfect? There's no point in trying to improve things for normal people.
Look, like you, I am a tech nerd. I've hosted fedi servers. I have a lot of websites. I'm writing a CMS for an MMPORG.
I cannot be fucked to host my own XMPP server. Nobody I know uses XMPP since the embrace extend extinguish thing happened with it. Is this fair? No. Is it true? Yes.
No normal person in a train station wants to hear about ex em pee pee.
Elena ``of Valhalla''@celesteh @monocles @Steldamm @kkarhan my experience was that hosting an XMPP server lead pretty quickly to having friends and family use it, although there were a couple additional factors:
* family members (who are pretty normal people) got an account on that server, so they only had to install conversations on their phone
* most of our friends are of the FLOSS-nerd variety, and there are enough who are able to run their own server to provide for themselves and for the non-uploading nerds of the group, but everybody had at least some motivation, once the effort required was low
* I'm not on other chat systems (other than IRC, which I'm not going to recommend to family members :) )
Alexandre Olivawhy bother with servers? #GNU #Jami FTW
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