🔥 Mireille Sillander 🔥May 4
Cities must be primarily for biological life instead of machines
Show threadzedMay 4
@Mimesatwork yes but also “without fees” is a very American viewpoint.
Show threadInga-Lina PusurunkkaMay 4

@zed @Mimesatwork as if public toilets in eg. europe were generally free to use 🙄

("free to our customers" is not free. sure, public libraries usually have free toilets, but there are only so many public libraries)

Show threadzedMay 4
@Stoori @Mimesatwork I point it out specifically because toilets are often not free, but .50€ is a negligible amount and if charging a minuscule amount is what enables plentifully available toilets the that is ok.
Show threadHenrik PauliMay 4
@zed @Stoori @Mimesatwork My experience in Europe tends to be: both expensive AND not plentiful :/
Show threadzed
@phl I never made the claim that paid toilets are the solution, only that being paid doesn’t inherently make it wrong. Also, Europe is extremely diverse and public toilets in France are usually free, just like the US.
May 4 at 11:31amWeb
Show threadHenrik PauliMay 4

@zed Didn't mean to imply you did... In any case, in Germany, the Netherlands, Belgium or Hungary you both pay for it and there's not terribly many public toilets. In HU even some malls have pay-for toilets which I find outrageous.

What a contrast to a place like Japan. (though there, the amount of toilets in a department store leaves a lot to be desired; but the general availability is pretty high... and always free)