I understand but lament the choice so many thoughtful people have made to publish their newsletters on the odious Substack. Surely they recognize that they are, at least indirectly, helping some of the worst people in the world spread and monetize malignant views.

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@dangillmor

I guess this is the Nazi bar analogy, and I sort of get that. But I have a few questions.

First, and I know this is a bit reductio ad absurdum, but bear with me, should we boycott comcast because they let Andrew Tate use their wires? If not, where is the dividing line?

Second, I guess the argument here is that they are platforming an asshole, and using their non-asshole bloggers as leverage. Why doesn't this work in both directions? Can't I plunder Andrew Tate's followers?

@abhayakara @dangillmor

I realize you are "just asking questions" but if Comcast was paying Tate to spread his poison with the money I sent them for their services, then yes, I would support dropping Comcast.

But it is well past reductio ad absurdum to claim that I should boycott anything that Tate favours.

Substack is using the fees paid to them to literally pay Nazis for Nazi content.

@RaePatterson @dangillmor

Okay, that is literally my question. I do not see evidence of this. I'm not saying it's not happening. But you seem to know that it is happening. That means you've seen evidence. Please share a link.

I follow several people on substack and pay for their newsletters. As far as I know I'm paying for _them_. If that's not the case I'd like to know.

@abhayakara @dangillmor

I don't think there's any evidence that Substack is paying kickbacks to Tate and his ilk, not that I've seen anyway, but they are definitely enabling him for profit, likely more than they are profiting from the writers you are reading.

I do boycott Amazon and Nestle and Florida orange juice (still), because I do not want my money to go toward supporting them no matter the quality of their products.

Of course everyone draws that line in a different place.

@RaePatterson @dangillmor

I get that, and I avoid certain companies too. The reason I'm digging in on this is that a lot of the criticisms of substack feel really lazy and misleading. There are very good reasons to criticize substack. But shaming people for not having weeks of technical expertise to throw at an alternative feels really unhelpful and counterproductive.

If this is a real problem for our community, we should actually solve it, and not shame non-experts for failing to solve it.