the solution to having created a world you think is too toxic for children is not to ban children from the world
ludicrous to think that a social media app that is too toxic for a sixteen year old is somehow ok for an "adult". if all social media is toxic, it's all toxic for everyone, and who's fault is that?
how about creating a world you aren't embarrassed to think of a child existing in?
@ana Sadly, we live in a world where barely functioning, traumatized, adults believe that the best response to childhood is re-enact their own experiences of trauma upon them. The ones pushing these laws are not those who grew up with social media, but grew up any isolation and absence of it.
@ana Well, here you go being all logical and stuff…
@ana Discord mentally forked me at 31.
@ana Is toxicity really the issue here? I thought the bans were against scrolling addiction which was keeping kids from learning school things.

@khleedril @ana I think Ana's point still stands with that argument: scrolling addiction pushed my anxiety over the edge at 32 years old. 4 years later I'm still not finished treating that with my therapist.

also, scrolling addiction IS toxicity. toxicity is not just "people being toxic to each other".

@ana
The whole discussion reminds me of the alcohol topic or cigarettes ... people are so keen about protecting the youth, where it's actually crappy for everyone

@ana
It's wild - we have all these internal memos and shit from Meta where they're like, "Designing our algorithms on Facebook and Instagram to make people angry and hate themselves keeps them on the site half a second longer, which makes us an extra millionth of a cent. So obviously that's what we gotta do." It's not even a secret.

Yet despite all of the mountains of evidence that this is being intentionally done to people, particularly young people, the idea that we should regulate a handful of companies doesn't even come up for a vote. Apparently, trying to regulate the daily lives of tens of millions of people is a lot more rational?

@jargoggles @ana The book "Careless People" describes some interactions between Facebook executives and politicians.

Some of them were quite reasonable. Others, like the meeting with the Irish prime minister at Davos (page 174), are rather disturbing.

@jargoggles @ana

Of course it's more rational. People aren't people. Only corporations are people.

Murica! /s

@ana @Unlikelylass That would require those responsible to admit to it.