"The dumbest person you know is being told 'you are absolutely right' by an AI right now."

@AlSweigart

Compare the rather obvious "baiting" by AI's with the convoluted lies and manipulations by humans at the moment on the world stage.

I'd much rather have an AI running the show as long as its trained only by compassionate and aware human data, themselves elected from society.

Then have the civil servants carry out all the work and offer in AI guardrails. Keep the ego's and lies out of leadership! Bring back Transparency and Integrity.

Just an Idea 😉

@CressSalad @AlSweigart AI can't run the show it can just return statistically generated answers.

@mu @AlSweigart

Isnt that what we want (zero ego, conflict of interest, divide and rule, misappropriation of funds, war mongering errr 🙂 anyway its an idea, seems way better to have a neural net making choices than certain people at large in the world at the moment)

@CressSalad @mu @AlSweigart A big problem with statistically generated answers is that correct information isn’t necessarily the most statistically prevalent. In fact, there are very well funded organizations dedicated to making sure that it isn’t. Yet people perceive information from computers as being both unbiased and more accurate than information from humans.

@mathew @mu @AlSweigart

True, this helped me understand:

https://www.ibm.com/think/topics/ai-vs-machine-learning-vs-deep-learning-vs-neural-networks

I am thinking though in a few years we should be able to ask questions of these systems, what ever level of AI we get to, to example draw up a national budget or list natitonal priorities for the population (for example health care vs military), not just to the benefit of some prime minister or president. Maybe we are already running these models. I dont know.

AI vs. Machine Learning vs. Deep Learning vs. Neural Networks | IBM

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@CressSalad @mathew @AlSweigart and who do you think would be defining the goals and algorithms?

@mu @mathew @AlSweigart

Yeah like I said it needs to be thought through its not a comment about a micro-architecture, need to use some creativity - imagine taking learning from the best minds in society, could be for example, gov has 10000 objectives, then the people in society are polled and paid for their advice (lets say 500k people). Then solutions that come back are used in training. Objectives will be balanced by data from the society and environment using scientific bodies and papers

@mu @mathew @AlSweigart

My orginal comment was just to take out the fckn ego crap from leadership - surely "smart" people can work out how to do that using modern tech, and still have a lovely country to live in and not have so much waste.

I am not saying I have all the answers, only I see a major issue at the moment - thats pretty obbvious right? LOL

@CressSalad @mathew @AlSweigart almost everyone I have ever met that has worked for a government department has genuinely wanted to help people. A good 50% of politicians I have met have also genuinely wanted to help people.

There are bad eggs everywhere, but you seem to be saying that all government decision making is bad, and that is incorrect.

As rough as the government can be, private sector is worse. What you want is an assemblage of people who have the time and expertise to understand the problems affecting us, and working to solutions.

That's what the government is.

Individuals, usually leaders, can be horrible and make bad, destructive, decisions, but that's a problem with voters asking those people to make those bad decisions, it's a feature, not a bug.

By the time you have an expert in the issues who can program something to make good decisions, you're going to already be on the next problem.

I get the desire, the yearning, to have a better system than we have, but you appear to be trying to solve a people problem with technology, and that's never going to work.

@mu @mathew @AlSweigart

Yeah you know Mu, I think your from NZ right - you are blessed with good govourning there and dont seem to have a serious right wing issue

I lost count of bad eggs in Europe and the UK and now the US in the last decade

So maybe the real problem is education - school at home or society in general

I dont want to get rid of people and totally get people go into politics from a perspevctive of care. But politics in the North seems art of division not togetherness IMHO

@CressSalad @mathew @AlSweigart we have right-ring problems here, but we look to places like France where people will burn the city down if the government does stuff they don't like, the European data laws and the Scandinavian social nets as inspiration.

Frankly, there is a lot to emulate up north, and we have anti-vaxxers and anti-trans people in government right now. We aren't a haven we're just getting to the same place a bit slower.