My biggest concern is not that fertility rate is low/population decline is happening, it’s that it’s happening way too quickly for society to be able to handle it.

We’re talking like 4 old people per child (estimated number). Not only would it be a massive strain on the economy to have so many elderly people/retirees to take care of, older people will also have a highly disproportionate account of political power due to their relative abundance. If it’s already such a big deal that boomers were twisting the political landscape for their gain, I shudder to think what would happen at this larger and longer scale.

All of this is going to be a breeding ground for misogyny and right-wing ideology. We’ve already seen it in South Korea.

Plus, without younger people to take up the mantle, many industries that we rely on will need to downsize, and a lot of institutional knowledge will be lost. Many roles that require a “master-to-apprentice” style of learning will be lost and will be unable to recover, even if the population started growing again.

Fox News has the wrong take here, as it is wont to have. But we genuinely should be really concerned that birth rates across all developed countries are this low below replacement rate and are still dropping

Well the solution would be END FUCKING CAPITALISM ALREADY, but since none of the younger generations actually care to do so we get to enjoy a rest period on the environment, maybe enough of one to slow some of the later effects of climate change.

We’re already dead as a species within 500 years. No matter what we do CO2 PPM is going to triple by that time and that will, at the very least, eliminate higher-order thinking and shrink brain development far below what is necessary to have more than a passing visage of human society.

So maybe with fewer people we can skip the worst of the water wars (which started in 2014) and maybe even skip some of the worst of the food and migration wars (already starting, will escalate over the next five years as major producers like the us fail to produce excess thanks to shifting seasons and lack of workers).

Honestly best case scenario is natural population decline.

Even without capitalism the math doesn’t math.

If there’s only one working person for every four old people, and those four old people each need one or two caretakers a piece then there’s not enough workers to go around.

And that doesn’t count every other job in society that needs done to support the caretakers, like growing food and fixing toilets.

Oh I see the problem you’re having, you still think most jobs need doing.

They don’t.

The majority of jobs under a capitalist society are not needed to produce goods, nor distribute goods, nor consume goods.

We could just eliminate health insurance. Entirely. Just completely remove the concept from our society. There are now 1.6 million people that need work. Median age of 32.

Remove all insurance and we get up to 3 million. That’s about 5% of the working population.

Insurance is only needed under capitalism. so let’s eliminate that.

Now eliminate Marketers. Now all advertising. and so on. Eliminate middle management.

Congrats. we keep going like this and we can easily get a quarter or more of the working population doing something useful.

Now let’s bring in incentives for the chronically unemployed, the majority of which just can’t compete in capitalism, but still have both the skills and capability to flourish under alternative economic systems that don’t require 40-80 hour work weeks after begging for a job through the least efficient hiring process ever developed.

The more you dig into the facts, the more you realize that not only do we not need most people working full time, we don’t need most people working.

And with more free time that increases innovation, and without a capitalist structure preventing automation vis-a-vi complete societal collapse, congrats you now have incentives to reduce work even further to the minimum amount.

This not only allows for depopulation, but actively encourages it, naturally, as despite having more free time and resources and less stress, people would only have kids if they wanted kids. Not because they need someone to take care of them in their old age, or other such coercive, frankly evil excuses to have kids.

Are you advocating for not treating the sick whatsoever, or are you assuming total governmental funding for treating the sick?
‘funding’ is a capitalist term, but yes a simplification of socialist and post-currency economics would be ‘the government funds treating the sick’… like it does in 109 countries, including every developed nation, and a majority of recognized developing nations except the US.
What’s it like to consider reality a distant and off-putting concept but an imaginary conception of society totally familiar and so doable it’s not even worth mentioning the process to get to it?

It’s better than pretending that repeating history and failed ideas will magically generate a different outcome. Pretending that we can ‘fix’ capitalism with more regulations or more reforms is silly when there has never been a successful capitalist country in history.

They, at best, have to adopt socialist-adjacent policies paid for by the explicit rape of slave countries and colonies just to survive a few more decades; with no actual plans for what happens if those colonies throw off their chains or how to ever stop exploiting people to survive.

Great, you get to just make up an argument I never made and run with it. My favorite.