There are still absolutely beautiful websites using basic css and html with little or no js. professional web dev has gotten more complex along with specialization, but you can still build personal sites with 20yr old tech. and some new stuff is simpler.

What we've lost, it seems to me, is the broad indie pipeline to both learning and socializing (and socially learning).

partly because we who learned it 20yrs ago have landed in more specialized/complex jobs.

@mia AGREE HEAVILY. Encountered something recently with a FAQ entry so hostile and belligerent toward using raw/native web tech that... I got fucking incandescent.

It was less that one little scrap of text and more knowing that that's likely the prevalent mindset out there.

Nobody needs goddamn webpack just to noodle with web stuff. Hell, technically not even to make an extremely complex and performant site/app.

@joshuaelliott @mia

Webpack sucks and the people who made it deserve to be punished.