@penpencilbrush @deathkitten @arianvp Yeah, fair, in the end it all comes down on the same thing, some people will walk/bike no matter what, but every time we get rid of a barrier, the group of pedestrians and cyclists will grow.
Like, I walk, cycle, or take transit everywhere, and because of the cities I've lived in, I never had the need to even get a drivers license. But when I visited North America, I mostly felt very dependent on friends to get around, as the non-car infrastructure was barren, and everything was built on a scale that assumed you would just drive.