lumpenproletariatshould've paid us enough to fucking live
https://quokk.au/c/mop/p/827032/should-ve-paid-us-enough-to-fucking-live
normanwallI wasn’t familiar with this, assuming it’s the same incident
It says it’s 40 miles away from ontario
No, it says
Thick smoke billows from the roof of the Kimberly-Clark paper products facility Tuesday in Ontario, Calif.
TheTechnician27While we were distracted with Iran, Washington and Oregon joined Canada and allowed their army to begin annexing into SoCal. Western Washington/Oregon was cool with it for social reasons; Eastern was cool with it for gas prices.
JessicaThe initial estimate found the paper product inside the warehouse being worth $500 million the building itself being worth $150 million
Damn. Thoughts and prayers. Though it does suck for the people who lost jobs over this.
Nobody lost a job that was paying enough to live there. They should open a co-op in the ashes… Of course it’ll still be profitable enough for the company to rebuild and refill the warehouse.
It was still a job for those people. If they aren’t being paid enough, sudden unemployment would be pretty scary. I’m not passing judgement on the act, just recognizing the situation that this has put those workers in.
Company should have paid enough to live.
The decision of a company to not pay a living wage has forced a man’s hand to fight back against his own oppression. Unfortunately others have been caught in the crossfire.
Two comments up, I said that I was not taking a position on the act. But to suggest he was forced to burn down that building is edgelord at best.
It’s called “having solidarity” mate.
If that were to happen to my place of work, I’d be screwed. I’m not sure that I’d see it has “having solidarity”, more so “unemployment is less than half of what I take in each week, and I have bills, and rent. Fuck.”. I have solidarity with those who wish to come together, to fight for what’s important to them. Destroying the workplace takes their voices away.
You would be screwed because of the same system of oppression that the one burning down the place of work was suffering from which pushed them to that action.
It’s called solidarity and class consciousness.
Destroying the work place is praxis.
LucidlethargyYou’re right. Everyone should just get back to work and be happy with the exploitation. Thank you for bravely speaking up here.
Oh, there’s always an excuse in defense of our overlords. Let me make this clear:
I would prefer the world reduced to ashes, over being ruled by them.
__反いじめ戦隊Eh. Really, if you do something this big, your chances of not getting caught are virtually zero. Might as well spread your message yourself so the media can’t later twist it and say you were just mad at your boss or something.
A_norny_mousse[someone] was charged by federal authorities with arson of a building used in interstate and foreign commerce
So because they sell wares in other states, it’s a felony? Not sure I agree with that.
I expect it’s a felony because it’s arson. It’s federal because they sell wares in other states.
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Never noticed the dead plant before 😚👌
He did not receive a piece of cake.
Confused_EmusAs much as I support the dude’s sentiments, I gotta go with the billion dollar company winning on this one. He’s not getting paid, likely facing prison time, fines, and legal fees, and the billion dollar company files an insurance claim.
As a singular instance, sure. But if people become inspired to organize to continue these actions across multiple industries, then we begin to destabilize the system.
He struck a blow, and showed people it is possible to fight back. That’s a win in my book, regardless of the price he had to pay to achieve it.
I wonder if these kind of things become common enough would insurance companies pressure business to pay higher wages or drastically increase the insurance premiums.
They can call it the “asshole tax”.
Valmond
KairuByteI… uh… unfortunately, I’m gonna go with the billion dollar company.
Insurance will cover most of the damage, the dude will end up in prison, and at most the worst that the company will suffer is higher premiums.
The message is just as important.
I am hoping insurance will do all it can to deny and even then charge more moving forward.
Alternatively, the company heads will get scared knowing their house is flammable too.
Personally I’d never want to burn down someone’s house. They might have a pet, and then I’d feel bad.
Kidnap their pet first and then you get a free companion alongside destroying the rulers
I have seen this repeatedly, and while I understand that it would be sad, what is more valuable: 1-3 pets, or all the humans that will have their lives destroyed by the fuck you set fire to?
Did you forget why we were here? Liberation isn’t free. Dead animals are very sad. I get it. A dead ecosystem includes many dead animals. Like, MANY.
This is a concept that a lot of people struggle with. They lose sight of the bigger picture and simply react to what’s right in front of them.
This is why having class consciousness is important. It puts everything into perspective.
explodicleThe higher premiums will cost the company almost as much as the arson. Insurance just spreads out financial risk over time; it’s still a net loss for the insured.
One? There are millions of us for every single one of them.
I am very curious about the circumstances leading up to this
And I’m very curious how long his court case will take.
BigDaddySlimI am very curious about the circumstances leading up to this
Simple, they didn’t pay them enough to live
I do believe that
New union tactic: start openly organizing, and threaten to burn the building down if they try to union bust
The state wanted to remove the rules. They didn’t know the rules were there to keep them safe from us.
Once we are done we go to the executives’ homes too.
TattorackThat’s not a new union tactic, that’s an old school union tactic. Organisation and unions started with riots and breaking shit.
SigntistWe only need food, water, toilet paper, and medicine. Everything else is a scam, and can go away.
db0Unfortunately both them (and us) forgot that this is the kind of thing their new deal tried to prevent. We didn’t get 8 hour days and 5 day weeks because we asked nicely and they felt generous. We got it because workers back then burnt down shit and the bosses were at a reasonable fear they were gonna get got.
We need to put the fear back into the rich again if we need to see real change.