GrapheneOSApr 10

The claims made about GrapheneOS in this interview are extremely inaccurate. It heavily misrepresents the purpose of GrapheneOS and what we've worked on for years. The claim GrapheneOS is a security project rather than a privacy project is misinformation. Contacts are specifically brought up and yet our Contact Scopes feature is ignored. @fla knows GrapheneOS is a privacy project. He replied to a thread with our response to this misinformation only 4 days ago...

https://piaille.fr/@projetslibres_podcast/116379561169492214

Show threadAral BalkanApr 10
@GrapheneOS Maybe talk to the @Framasoft folks directly; they’re good people. Everyone isn’t out to get you. It’s not doing your reputation any favours to respond to any mention of GrapheneOS that doesn’t recite the technical manual 100% correctly with a sledgehammer. And I say that as someone who has a lot of respect for your project and wants to see GrapheneOS succeed long term.
Show threadGrapheneOSApr 10
@aral @Framasoft He directly responded to the thread we published 4 days ago addressing Murena once again claiming the kind of privacy and security hardening work done by GrapheneOS and iPhones is only useful to criminals and spies. In that thread, we directly addressed these repeated inaccurate claims about the purpose, goals and approach of GrapheneOS which wrongly portray it as a security project rather than a privacy project. His claims in the interview are more than egregiously inaccurate.
Show threadGrapheneOSApr 10

@aral @Framasoft You've likely already read our previous thread where we directly addressed these inaccurate claims. Here's the relevant part of the thread:

https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/116354014750484314

We're repeatedly published content addressing people inaccurately claiming GrapheneOS is a security project rather than a privacy project. He has read multiple of these threads and knows what we've said. He's saying what he did in the interview despite that. This isn't about getting any technical details wrong.

Show threadGrapheneOSApr 10
@aral @Framasoft We aren't finished responding to it with this thread. We're going to be posting it on our forum and other social media platforms too. We're going to be responding beyond what we're already posted. We've been actively finding and archiving more cases of /e/, Murena and Gaël Duval attacking GrapheneOS by claiming it's only useful to criminals and spies which they've said directly multiple times along with often alluding to it. We have a lot more than that one video clip to use.
Show threadDaniel LakelandApr 10

@GrapheneOS
It would be useful rather than to always be on the defensive, to also publish articles explaining what graphene does for everyday people. Ive converted at least 4 people and they all love having a phone **they** control.

Being on the defensive at all times makes you seem weak, but you are a strong and much loved project. Stop giving the naysayers so much time! Promote your message!

I also say this as someone who wants you to succeed.

@aral @Framasoft

Show threadGrapheneOSApr 10
@dlakelan @aral @Framasoft GrapheneOS has been enormously harmed by years of companies misleading people about it. There's a concerted effort by /e/, Murena and their supporters to mislead people into believing GrapheneOS isn't a privacy project and that they wouldn't benefit from the major privacy and security improvements it provides. @fla is directly peddling talking points from Gaël Duval aimed at steering people away from GrapheneOS to insecure Murena products. This isn't a minor issue.
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@dlakelan @aral @Framasoft Gaël Duval has repeatedly portrayed hardened devices protecting users against privacy and security vulnerabilities as only being useful to criminals and spies. It's not simply one statement in that video but rather a long history of this claim from /e/, Murena and Gaël Duval. @fla is trying to promote /e/ and is using very similar talking points misrepresenting the purpose of GrapheneOS and portraying what it provides as if it's somehow not useful to most people.
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Show threadGrapheneOSApr 10

@dlakelan @aral @Framasoft @fla Gaël Duval is undermining privacy as a whole, not only GrapheneOS.

Apple is heavily focused on protecting users from privacy and security vulnerabilities too. iPhones are hardened devices. iPhone 17 is a huge upgrade for security against exploitation and makes users far safer against remote exploits, compromised apps and data extraction. Gaël Duval, /e/ and Murena have repeatedly claimed this primarily benefits criminals and not regular people, which is nonsense.