BallisticPunkControversial D&D opinion. Subclasses should be stats base insted of gimmick based. Give me a charisma based monk, or a intelligence based fighter. Make it about the playstyle instead of designing dolls we have to play only one way. Give me a character that is UNIQUE mechanically
I know a lot of people. I know nerds that were charismatic and jocks who were the smartest motherfuckers when talking about physics and the body. I know MMA fighters who hadn't been hit because they were strong enough and dexterous enough to one hit their opponent. I just want stereotypes out of the game, man! Specially now that is becoming mainstream.
Changing subclasses to be stats based is not even difficult to do. Divination wizard already plays like a wisdom-based wizard. Remove MAD and SAD and make it TAD, two ability dependent, The first the class, the second the subclass. One for the mechanics, another for the casting.
fn0rd@Imgoneinpeace OK, I'm going to do the thing. Apologies in advance.
Are you familiar with Pathfinder 2E? What you describe is part of what drew me to it originally - the flexibility and orthogonality of character creation.
@fn0rd Haven't play it but I have played PWOTR and i has the same problem that classes only depend on one stat? Maybe I was playing it wrong? I don't know, the rules were a lot.
@Imgoneinpeace They certainly are.
I am not familiar with PWOTR (had to search what it stands for), and Pathfinder 2E classes *are* biased towards certain stats, but because the system uses so many feats it's easier to go outside the "script" and create non-stereotypical characters.
I am not familiar with PWOTR (had to search what it stands for), and Pathfinder 2E classes *are* biased towards certain stats, but because the system uses so many feats it's easier to go outside the "script" and create non-stereotypical characters.
@fn0rd I mean, honestly at this point i don't feel creatively challenged by D&D so I may as well learn Pathfinder. if that game will actually let me make an eloquent monk I am all for it.(Sorry for the shorthand. the game is pathfinder: wrath of the righteous).