“The talk in some Democratic circles that the nominee should be a white male is something Harris and Black voters must contend with,” Smikle said. “Despite the assessment being shortsighted and insulting, in my view, it’s still a widely shared view that needs to be addressed somehow.”

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/5820336-black-voters-democratic-audition/

@jonesmurphy I dislike this line of thinking as much as anyone. On the other hand, I often think "FIRST we must WIN, THEN we change the system, THEN we elect women and people of color to carry it out." But we have to WIN FIRST, and this exact logic of we should be able to run the VP even though she is a woman of color and the Dems will have to vote for her because Trump is worse is what LOST US THE ELECTION LAST TIME.

So there has to be some reconciliation of ideas here.

@jonesmurphy I hate to say we have to con white America into voting in their own interests, but there it is.

@wyatt_h_knott what you write is a huge lie. Joe Biden got a narrower win than Obama. The biggest thing is that the GOP has been eroding voting rights since the Bush v Gore ruling of 2000. They escalated the rollback of MLK'S voting rights legacy in 2013, months after Obama’s reelection. That’s how Trump reached the White House in the 1st place. You're missing several enormous things.

https://www.lwv.org/blog/why-elections-matter-shelby-county-v-holders-impact-voting-rights-act

@jonesmurphy Not sure how me posting some opinions, all prefaced by "I think" is a lie, nor do I think posting a link to an article on the Voting Rights Act constitutes a thoughtful and relevant response to the quandries I posed.

Do please enunciate clearly the enormous things I am missing.

@wyatt_h_knott your comments are disconnected from the reality of increasingly undemocratic elections and the return to #MAGA suppression of black voters. The US tumbled out of the ranks of the world’s top democracies in 2015. It's now 28th and dropping fast. Supreme Court Republicans will issue another ruling within weeks, ending enforcement of the Voting Rights Act of 1965.
@jonesmurphy Likewise, your comments are disconnected from the reality that America is a totally racist state, foundated on racism, fed by racism, fuelled by racism, and it seems really weird to me that a Jew has to remind a black man that this country has been a haven of racism for 250 years and is not just going to suddenly leap into being a multi-culturally led institution except in very specific locations like NYC. This is WHY we have Trump.
@jonesmurphy America needs to be retrained, and the culture of the civil rights era, which has been bulldozed under by capitalism, needs to be rebuilt.
@wyatt_h_knott capitalism did not roll back MLK'S legacy. Racism did. The most capitalist parts of the country defeated the Confederates. It is the Confederates rolling back voting rights today, the least capitalist parts of the country.
@jonesmurphy See also, Marshall McLuhan and a chicken in every pot and TV dinners.

@wyatt_h_knott @jonesmurphy I'm replying here so it doesn't look like I'm ignoring what either of you have said.

1. Can we back up? Harris might run again? Yes, please!
2. I understand the "but Americans are misogynoir jerks, so let's give them the white man they want" argument, but as much as I despair of Trump, if I can have a qualified Black Asian woman, I want that.
3. Harris had one of the shortest campaigns in modern history; I think we have more of an opportunity if she has more time.

@dnkboston Agree with all of this. I not making apogies for anyone, I just feel obliged to point to what I think is the reality of the situation. In my state we have, and I vote for and give money to, an out lesbian Congressperson. We also have two white male Senators, one of whom is basically a white bread appeasement to the white males who do, in fact, own and control all of the state, and THAT is the equation we have to balance.

@jonesmurphy

@wyatt_h_knott @dnkboston you're not talking about the reality of the situation at all, starting with surging voter suppression since 2000, accelerating sharply after Obama won again.

@jonesmurphy How am I not talking about reality when all Im doing is stating facts about my state?

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@wyatt_h_knott @dnkboston cuz your state is one of 50. I'm talking about all 50. I'm fortunate enough to be in NY, a state which is not rolling back voting rights. How about your state?

@jonesmurphy Vermont, so nope. Just got asked at the DMV if I needed to decline being automatically registered because I was already registered, to which I answered yes. What I WANT to do is unseat our midget purple governor, but every time the Dems get control of our legislature they come ofter my guns instead of doing anything to get us off the Federal tit. It's BLUE politicians in my state that brought ICE here. Happily. For the money. To applause.

@dnkboston

@wyatt_h_knott @dnkboston so your voters don't want ICE? Is that why they reelected the Republican Governor to a 4th(!!) term? And give him the highest approval of any Governor in the US? What use are your guns against a nuclear Federal government? Or even someone like me who is very familiar with nuclear and many other kinds of physics? What's this guns bullshit? I grew up in a very rural area of the Caribbean. Folks obsessed with guns are assholes. The US is the most privately armed nation.

@jonesmurphy It's a Black Panther thing.

@dnkboston

@wyatt_h_knott @dnkboston it's 2026. Many of us know how to build far more advanced weapons.

@jonesmurphy yes indeed.

and I was going to say some things, but I think, instead, I will not.

@dnkboston 🤣 😜

@wyatt_h_knott @dnkboston I empathize. There's a lot I cannot say online. I get threatened a lot by MAGA white men boasting to me about their many guns. I warn them that while it's true that I did grow up hunting a lot as a kid, I also taught myself nuclear physics as a kid. I have to stop there.