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“why won’t the AI haters admit claude mythos is good?” when it turns out the exploits it found are utterly overblown (ie the firefox exploit that only works on a custom build with the sandbox disabled amongst many other non-exploitable bugs), were found at extreme expense, and required a ton of human staff to verify (just like with existing non-LLM techniques), why won’t you admit this is a grift? why won’t you admit you’ve been falling for the same grift since 2019?
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some asshole doing free marketing for anthropic decided my post was worth screenshotting as an example of what’s wrong with the AI critics but they utterly failed to engage with any of the points I made, as if pushing back on this obvious shit at all is the problem

anyway here’s a citation for the Firefox thing because no that wasn’t just me talking, the grift really is that fucking obvious

Apr 9 at 7:25pmWeb
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“but how can the mythos announcement be a grift when a set of people I trust are very confident it’s not?” please consider the literal definition of “con man” and the quality of the evidence you accept. if someone you trust is telling you to ignore concrete evidence of a grift, it may be time to reconsider that trust relationship.

as with previous financial grifts like MLMs, Ponzi schemes, and cryptocurrencies, note also that many of the con men involved are also victims of the grift.

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if you’re a fan or friend of any of the people who’ve been taken in by this or any other LLM grift, the best favor you can do for them is to push back on what they’re saying and doing. make it very clear you will not compromise on the truth.

if they are a victim of this grift, your pushback might be the perspective they need to stop being a victim. if they are profiting from the grift, you will be helping to prevent other people from being made into victims.

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just be warned: regardless of whether the person you’re engaging with is a victim of grift or a perpetrator, engaging with them will very likely be exhausting by design. you’re unlikely to see positive results immediately, if ever. you may lose friendships. hopefully your friends come back ruggedized against bullshit, but it’s not guaranteed they will.
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@zzt @davidgerard this was a point of contention (at times towards heated) with my ex-wife which we had to stop talking about because we ultimately had bigger issues to deal with.
Show threadRycochet3d ago
@zzt Anthropic have an almost Theranos level of unearned media sycophancy, with people who should know better desperately trying to make a good AI company by reporting everything they say as fact and fawning because the people in charge look like better people when compared to Sam 'Captain Eyeballscan' Altman.
Show threadflere-imsaho 🇺🇦3d ago
@Rycochet @zzt and quickly reaches the therac-25 level of safety.
Show threadAlanna 🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️3d ago
@mawhrin @Rycochet @zzt Theranos are hilarious to me. They're the company everyone believed in 2015 when no one took the start up I was co-founder of seriously, despite the fact we had actual science behind it.
Show threadthe gripe ibis2d ago
@kelpana @mawhrin @Rycochet @zzt the free market is so rational
Show threadflere-imsaho 🇺🇦2d ago
@thegarbagebird @kelpana @Rycochet @zzt it's because we're dealing with the rational free market with full information, the only kind of market that exists in economy.
Show threadthe gripe ibis2d ago

@mawhrin oh you're right, if the market has correct information, it will obviously act correctly based upon that information. that's why we live in a meritocracy, where people are rewarded for their ability, not for ideological or circumstantial reasons

@kelpana @Rycochet @zzt

Show threadDan Sugalski3d ago
@Rycochet @zzt I admit it would be really nice if at some point the media came to the realization that everyone involved in a story or industry can be horrible. Douchebaggery is not, alas, a zero sum game.
Show threadBen Rosengart1d ago
@Rycochet @zzt the Lyft of LLMs
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@zzt good post, but I feel like you can’t call that a citation since there isn’t a link, title, or author. Here’s a link to Anthropic’s blog post where they restate this in a footnote.

https://red.anthropic.com/2026/mythos-preview/#ftnt_ref1

Claude Mythos Preview \ red.anthropic.com