Richard Stallman

[1/3] https://gizmodo.com/fcc-bans-all-new-routers-not-made-in-america-2000737176
https://stallman.org/archives/2013-may-aug.html#10_July_2013_(Retired_FISA_Judge_speaks_out_against_secret_courts)

The FCC has banned importation of foreign-made routers, except for models already approved. This addresses a real problem, but the supposed solution addresses only a part of it. When a router is made in a country other than the US, it's possible that that country's government has imposed spyware

FCC Bans All New Routers Not Made in America

Routers the FCC has already approved can still be sold, but further approvals of foreign-made routers will not be issued.

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Apr 9 at 6:23pmWeb
Show threadRichard Stallman3d ago
[2/3] to snoop on Americans - or perhaps only on selected Americans. However, other countries have the same reason to suspect routers made in the US. The US government maintains systematic ways to snoop on everyone, even its own citizens in defiance of its laws and constitution. Perhaps other countries should ban US-made routers as well as China-made routers. But national governments are not the only entities that might make a router manufacturer snoop on users. The company might do this
Show threadRichard Stallman3d ago
[3/3] for its own purposes or to sell data. To address this problem thoroughly, governments should insist that routers' software be released under a free/libre license, subject it to systematic analysis looking for security holes, _and_ that the router allow the user to install other software through a method that involves pressing a physical button.
Show threadΓιανίρης3d ago

Classic Stallman ethnocentrism, all foreign governments are bad, trying to offend "Americans" while the US government is trying to protect them.

Wouldn't it read better if they said they are banning routers that don't include US government spyware?

Has anyone heard a single thing the #Snowden reported and was persecuted?
Has anything changed since then, except for maybe silently passing laws to make spying more "legal" than it was?

Most routers I've seen, either for sale or provided by ISPs have some version of old linux in them or at least some unix fork, mostly really old stuff. Whether the source has been tampered with or is built on the original FOSS published it is much harder to know unless you build and install your own.

@rms @specktator_ @tromo

Show threadΤρομοκρατιστής ✭3d ago
@iriyan Η tp-link είναι γερμανική και εγώ προτιμώ tenda ... τι να μας πει αυτός και ο γρύλος του :P δεν υπάρχουν στην αγορά @rms @specktator_
Show threadΓιανίρης3d ago

Classic Stallman ethnocentrism, all foreign governments are bad, trying to offend "Americans" while the US government is trying to protect them.

Wouldn't it read better if they said they are banning routers that don't include US government spyware?

Has anyone heard a single thing the #Snowden reported and was persecuted?
Has anything changed since then, except for maybe silently passing laws to make spying more "legal" than it was?

Most routers I've seen, either for sale or provided by ISPs have some version of old linux in them or at least some unix fork, mostly really old stuff. Whether the source has been tampered with or is built on the original FOSS published it is much harder to know unless you build and install your own.

@rms @specktator_ @tromo