F'Finally! Open hardware printer you can actually understand, repair, and upgrade... no stupid vendor DRM lock-in. Someone was apparently reading Enshittification from @pluralistic 😎
Will buy several, once available 👍

https://www.crowdsupply.com/open-tools/open-printer

Open Printer

Finally, an open hardware printer you can actually understand, repair, and upgrade

Crowd Supply
@cr00ky Not really open though. It has a non-open NC license...

@ainali Yes. But, not limiting for us, users, tinkerers... more open than any other printer 😀

"Open Printer is distributed under the Creative Commons BY-NC-SA 4.0 license.

This means that everyone is free to use, share, and modify the project, provided they credit the original author, share derivatives under the same license, and do not use it for commercial purposes. "

@cr00ky I know. It just don't pass the open definition. (Nor is it listed as an approved open source license by the OSI.) So, a "hardware printer you can actually understand, repair, and upgrade" yes, but it is not open in the sense open is normally used when talking about open hardware or open source. I think the name either implies that they don't really understand the context they are in (which is bad) or that it is a case of open washing (which is worse).

@ainali @cr00ky

NC stands for non commercial?

I get the non commercial part for creative things such as books, music, pictures.

For a hardware, this makes it not really (or not at all) open source?

I'm not arguing, I just don't get the whole thing.

(Nevertheless, this printer is quite cool.)

@MichelPatrice @ainali It’s because of turbonerds like you, with your endless No True Scotsman fallacies, that we can’t have nice things.
@cr00ky

@oscherler

Are you talking to me? (Not to be read in De Niron's voice...)

@oscherler You can have all the nice things you want. But if we are bending the definitions, what's the point of trying to define anything at all? Just call it a really cool, repairable and modifiable printer. There's no need to leech on the open movement for this to be a great printer. @MichelPatrice @cr00ky