Even though I am generally interested in science and technology, I have found it impossible to get excited about Artemis II.

I'm not quite sure. Maybe it's because America isn't exactly my favourite country these days because ... well, you know why. Or maybe it's because, contrary to what I'd always assumed, these things are a lot more jingoistic than I thought. It's not "Mankind is going to the moon", it's "America is beating China to the moon".

#Artemis #Artemis2

@davidnjoku

Yup.

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I never see any of the "I'm just excited about space progress and science!" crowd celebrating any of the Chinese space flight accomplishments.

They were silent when China landed a robot on the moon a few years ago. Silent when China landed a rover on Mars. Silent about the Chinese space station that's orbiting the planet. Silent about China's crewed mission to Mars that is on schedule to depart on 2033.

When they talk about space and science and exploration being "humanity's accomplishments," it's pretty clear who they're viewing as humanity. There's an era of cold war nationalism that feels yucky.

@mekkaokereke @davidnjoku

The reality behind the scenes is far, far more complex than this.

@cyberlyra @davidnjoku

Please say more?

@mekkaokereke @cyberlyra @davidnjoku
Two things can be possible at the same time. Planning and timing of the Artemis II mission was set (even with setbacks/hiccups) well before the Orange 🤡 's regime. Cheer the progress for humanity, the science, teamwork, etc. NASA is as much a punching bag and pawn of the current administration as all of the other science-based agencies for which we lament the devastation foisted on them.
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Attached: 2 images Looking at the recent NASA photos, I'm reminded of this quote from Apollo 14 astronaut Edgar Mitchell. "You develop an instant global consciousness, a people orientation, an intense dissatisfaction with the state of the world, and a compulsion to do something about it." #NASA #ArtemisII

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@RunRichRun @cyberlyra @davidnjoku @piquant00

You've either completely missed, or completely ignored, the point of my post.

I'll say it much more bluntly, to let you react to it:

It's not "cheering for humanity" if you only cheer when Europeans or Americans do it. Instead it's a weird kind of nationalism or eurocentrism that is the opposite of what Star Trek is supposedly selling.

And it's super obvious to non-white observers how we "cheer for humanity" when Elon or NASA does something spacey, but to not even talk about it when China or India do something.

India has also landed a probe on the moon, and India has sent a probe to Mars orbit. India is the first nation to successfully enter Mars orbit on the first try. And their mission control and science and engineering teams are a lot more gender balanced than most places.

I'm saying that we should "celebrate humanity's space achievements" when they do stuff too, but I don't see that happening.

This isn't "Don't cheer for NASA." I cheer for NASA!👍🏿

This is "Don't try to sell me that US space race fever, is a win for humanity, because it's not."

It's "We can have a Federation of Planets, just as long as Earth is the head of that Federation, and the US is the head of Earth, and Starfleet headquarters is in San Francisco. Anything else is Romulans! 🤡"