can we talk about how deliberately, purposefully cruel the UK settlement (permanent residency) process is

super priority for 1000 GBP gives you the result on next day

btw it's 3226 GBP per person

@whitequark yes, it is. I didn't even know about the police registration requirement.

Many people who consider themselves internationally-minded and tolerant have no idea about any of this.

@coral @whitequark police registration is weirdly common, e.g. in the us non-citizens have to report their address to uscis after moving. in italy non-citizens entering from other schengen countries are required to register within 8 days, or stay in a hotel that performs the registration. china has a similar registration requirement, but hotels that accept foreigners will handle it.
@artemist @coral i knew about china and russia but i had no idea schengen states do this
mx [@whitequark, @artemist, @coral], the Netherlands, Poland and Spain have similar requirements too, and those are just the countries it (various levels of officially) lived in recently.
@1 the difference with the US, CN, and IT requirements is that they only apply to foreign citizens. I'm not sure if NL, PL, or ES have similar requirements for their own citizens

mx @artemist, if this one recalls correctly: in [Poland, Spain], non-citizens (even if they are from the EU) need to register their address with the police and update it when they move (in Spain even when they change their occupation!). in the Netherlands they need to do so with the immigration and naturalization service.

in addition, all people (including citizens) are required to register their address with the municipality in [the Netherlands, Spain]. for Poland this one is not completely sure how the process works.

@artemist @1 In Spain everyone, including citizens, has to register their residence location with the ayuntamiento (municipality). This is a major part of obtaining access to government and financial services, and you have to bring copies of your registration certificate to all kinds of bureaucratic appointments.
@resistor @artemist @1 Germany also has its residence Anmeldung

@Sobex @resistor @artemist @1 As for hotels, I think it might be a Schengen or EU requirement to register stays by foreign (not just third-country) nationals at this point?

As for permanent stays, (EDIT: actually, you do have to register all stays longer than 30 days. Unlike some other EU countries, we don't have any particular requirements other than that you have an address and your residence's owner is there to vouch for you if it's someone else, *I think*). As for citizens, I believe keeping the 'adres meldunkowy' up to date was supposedly made optional a decade ago or so… (EDIT: Or at least that's how people think of it these days, even if it isn't technically true.) I'm not sure how much of an improvement that is, given that you're supposed to update your address in a bunch of separate registries, like the taxpayer registry or the voter registry, that are now centralized… but separately updated.

@1 @whitequark @artemist @coral Germany too, have to register IIRC within 14 days of move. Regardless of whether you're immigrant or citizen