Occasionally when I'm clicking through Gentoo docs, looking at the Arch Wiki, or my reverse proxy loses contact with my server...
Haven't seen this oldie but goodie image shared around my circles on Fedi, so I figured I'd post it. ​
@maddy can I have that image/the page you use so I can do the same thing for my 502 page?
@solonovamax Go hard! I got this image as it was posted, by looking up "bad gateway meme" on a search engine. Couldn't find any real attribution to anyone in particular.
@maddy neorouter_woozy
@maddy btw i saw this bluray burner when i was doomscrolling aliexpress https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256810619666523.html

dunno if you're still looking for those but isn't 87 USD a good price for one?

tho it's aliexpres and there's little info so obviously kind of risky even tho it's legit according to comments

edit: well some comments say it's fake or defective so
@jiub Looks like it's a working blu-ray drive at best, but very unlikely to be one that works with UHD discs or OmniDrive firmware. Hard pass - there are better deals (on used drives) to be had from more reputable sellers on eBay and such.
@maddy good to know! i always forget that uhd is a whole different format ​

only bluray device i've had is my ps4
@jiub It's really silly because Blu-ray as a format was meant to be extendable, and that was part of the reason for most every player and reader having firmware updates (besides AACS bullshit). Theoretically, being able to read/write BD-XL/UHD shouldn't have needed more than a firmware update for existing Blu-ray hardware, though that doesn't necessarily account for the updated protections that UHD discs have.
@jiub I read some Blu-ray technical docs ages ago, and I also remember it talking about how you could potentially get up to 100 layers on a disc.
@maddy whoa that's wild, imagine how fragile that would be lmao
@jiub Right? Triple-layer discs are bad enough. Incredibly, writable quad-layer BD-XL exist. I don't think any UHD titles use it though - I think they max out at triple-layer.
@maddy wow, that's so frustrating!

seems like the usability of bluray is almost destroyed by the excessive level of DRM it has
@jiub @maddy just get a secondhand used one smh my head
@[email protected] wasn't @maddy running into reliability issues or smth? she's using these drives a lot heavier than almost anyone with all the ripping she does
@jiub @maddy if you're hitting reliability problems i don't consider $65 aliexpress drives to be a guaranteed dependability boost, and secondhand drives cost about that much anyway
@[email protected] @jiub Triple-layer UHD and slimline drives specifically (so far). Regular Blu-ray and dual-layer UHD titles generally haven't been an issue. But yeah, I generally wouldn't trust aliexpress BD drives for anything but a last resort when there's nothing left of UHD-capable drives except what scalpers are selling.

I might eventually give them a shot for a compatible laser assembly replacement though.
@maddy @jiub oh, slimline.
sounds like a self-dug hole :\
@[email protected] @jiub I'd have more UHD-capable 5.25" drives if I could find them in stock and at a reasonable price, but I missed that boat a good year ago, if not longer.
@maddy @jiub ohhh so they've gotten a load worse? :(
shit
i was using 2022-ish prices when i thought through that because that's when i got a BD drive to rip some discs I imported
@[email protected] @jiub UHD-capable drives specifically, though you might have a tough time finding any SATA BD drive new.

Scalpers are selling slimline UHD-friendly drives for upwards of $250 CAD, and 5.25" drives are upwards of ~$350 CAD in my searches. I refuse to buy from them.
@maddy @jiub yeah mine's uhd capable (via the firmware thingy, i may have had to downgrade it on mine? I forgor)
@maddy @jiub mine was bought on a suspicion that i'd be able to downgrade it or whatever it was you have to do, and it turned out to be a correct prediction
@jiub @maddy i think i paid like $65
@[email protected] @jiub Sounds like one with a MediaTek MT1959 chipset.
In case you missed it, you can give those drives more capabilities for raw reading, as well as support for proprietary game discs (Xbox/360, GameCube/Wii) while keeping LibreDrive compatibility -
https://github.com/RibShark/OmniDrive/

Pre-compiled firmwares are available on archive.org
GitHub - RibShark/OmniDrive

Contribute to RibShark/OmniDrive development by creating an account on GitHub.

GitHub
@maddy @jiub it reports WH16NS60, i think i bought it as a WH14NS40 or 16NS40 or something and changed the firmware out. Is that right for an MT1959?
@[email protected] @jiub Those models would be right, but only models with a manufacture date of late 2015 or later will be MT1959.
If you use MakeMKV, it'll tell you which chipset you have for sure on the information section when you open the program.
@jiub @[email protected] LG were assholes and made some of the same models with different capabilities. I have a half-dozen WH14NS40 I got from a BD duplicator I got for pennies from a recycler, and they were all too old.

I previously had a UHD-friendly WH14NS40 manufactured after 2015 that got blown up by incorrect modular PSU cables. >.>
@maddy @jiub i dont use modular psu's :p
this blu ray drive is the newest thing in my PC other than some hard disks
@maddy @jiub i have a version on their but their evil fucking license/registration key shit won't let me use it
@[email protected] @jiub In case you were unaware, they regularly post a (time-limited) beta key on the forums!
https://forum.makemkv.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1053
MakeMKV is free while in beta - www.makemkv.com

@maddy @jiub yes i know and it's fucking evil to make me keep doing that instead of just letting me use the goddamn software on a timebomb ("valid until end of may 2026" and then i have to fucking do it again)
@[email protected] @jiub Yeah, I don't fully understand the rationale behind it, but I do so much disc dumping with it I just ended up buying a perpetual license.
@maddy @jiub that's the purpose behind it. to make you pay

the purpose of a thing is what it does

@maddy @jiub

Drive Information OS device name: /dev/sr0 Manufacturer: HL-DT-ST Product: BD-RE WH16NS60 Revision: 1.02 Serial number: KL7KAMM0509 Firmware date: 2118-10-29 19:36 Bus encryption flags: 17 Highest AACS version: 76 LibreDrive Information Status: Enabled Drive platform: MT1959 Firmware type: Patched (microcode access re-enabled) Firmware version: 1.02 DVD all regions: Yes BD raw data read: Yes BD raw metadata read: Yes Unrestricted read speed: Yes
@maddy @jiub it must be at least 2015 because that worked

i think i was looking for drives made after that time when i shopped around and found one with really bad photos but lots of them
@jiub @maddy might have also been mislabelled
@[email protected] @jiub MT1959, sweet! So yeah, you could totally flash OmniDrive and get some extra perks if you wanted!
@maddy @jiub ohhh that's nice. did not know about this

i guess that means dumping wii and gamecube discs just got a lot easier? Wow
@[email protected] @jiub Last time I bought a BU40N slimline or WH14NS40 5.25" new (before the stock and prices went wild), they were $130 CAD and $110 CAD respectively.
@maddy @jiub everything sucks in the future :(
@maddy it's doing it's best. Sometimes it just needs some cuddles 🫂