George Takei 
🏳️🌈🖖🏽Rep. Ted Lieu isn't backing down.
Colin B.🇨🇦@georgetakei "The next administration..."
Good luck with that.
ᴮᵉⁿ ᴿᵒʸᶜᵉVOTE IN THE PRIMARIEScould we please stop with the cowardly spineless cynicism?
we want the usa to improve, yes?
so we don't speak in mindless capitulation that is not wise, is not useful, and just boils down to useless whiny "everything sucks forever, waah"
we speak of how we can improve things and work towards that
cynicism is acceptance of fascism
the cynic is MAGA's best friend
Jakenke@benroyce @swordgeek @georgetakei
I’m becoming more and more convinced that cynical defeatism is being intentionally astroturfed and amplified in left-leaning online communities all over the internet by malign actors.
@Jakenke @swordgeek @georgetakei
some is troll psyop from MAGA and geopolitical actors. maybe not paid troll farm, just random edgelords enjoying a game
but entitled, lazy detached people who consider themselves on the left is also real
a mirror image of MAGA in terms of a rotten society. these fake leftists are as bad as MAGA
fake leftists because they do not have an ideological position, they have a psychological position
they don't care about improving society, they care about whining
@benroyce @swordgeek @georgetakei
You’re right but IMO they mesh together. The most effective astroturfing takes a real phenomenon/sentiment and amplifies it. That could be as simple as vote and engagement manipulation to boost ‘real’ comments.
E.g. after the last two No Kings protests Reddit was flooded with “it doesn’t matter/waste of time/these protests are useless” comments. Many were probably ‘real’ but astroturfers likely seized the opportunity to upvote them.
@Jakenke @swordgeek @georgetakei
well said
and we can go further and say that the entire effort at discerning if someone is a troll working the learned helplessness psyop, or if they are genuinely this sort of whiny entitled useless cynic, it doesn't matter
cynical voices are capitulation to fascism
whether as an organic aspect of a weak person
or as a purposeful astroturfed agenda
the results are the same, so we treat both voices the same:
reject them
mindless cynicism helps fascism
AnnieBuddy@benroyce @Jakenke @swordgeek @georgetakei
I hope that we can all find a way to respect each others' emotions and views through this. What might appear on the surface as mindless cynicism to some may also be a coping mechanism for acceptance for others. We are all on different paths in our lives and we all come with different life experiences which have led to this moment in time.
Love, peace and respect are needed now more than ever.
@AnnieBuddy @Jakenke @swordgeek @georgetakei
no
what you're suggesting is codependent enabling
we castigate and reject the whiny useless cynic
that their whiny useless cynicism might come from a sincere place is besides the point
the point is recovering our country
not coddling people who by their weak rationale are signaling their acceptance of fascism
what are we going to do? defeat MAGA? or play therapist for people who lack a backbone while MAGA consumes us?
which is more important?
You S Blues
Chaucerburnt@AnnieBuddy @benroyce @Jakenke @swordgeek @georgetakei A coping mechanism that makes the situation worse for others is a bad coping mechanism.