J. Trent Adams4d ago
Fiona Bradley
"I'd just like to record this for the minutes". Minute taking was once a skill, knowing what to include, what to leave out, decisions made. Now we get long overly detailed minutes nobody cares to read, AI-generated summarised, and worst of all, meetings that are stilted and don't discuss anything because every utterance is recorded.
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Show threadsnail5d ago

@fionabradley I'm good with this myself as the AI transcription options are pretty fab and pick up stuff I don't hear.

I'm minute taker for a meeting in a couple of weeks and I'll be joining in from another room, specifically so I can use the AI record and summarise options to aid in my minute taking. I say aid as I'll use the AI summary to inform my minute taking not replace.

Show threadFiona Bradley5d ago
@snail yeah it really doesn't work for me (if I don't hear I ask for repeat). Probably as I just have too many meetings and don't have time for all this overhead. AI has done nothing to free up my schedule. I do use transcription if I need translation.
Show threadsnail5d ago
@fionabradley one of the things I loved about the move to teams with covid is being able to hear people in meetings, I couldn't hear in person.
Show threadFiona Bradley5d ago
@snail hybrid is the worst of both worlds.
Show threadsnail5d ago
@fionabradley not for me :)
Show threadLoïc Denuzière5d ago
@snail @fionabradley The sheer amount of outright false information I've found in the AI summary, the few times I've read it, have confirmed my decision to never enable it myself. In addition to the usual ethical issues with LLMs in general.
Show threadsnail4d ago
@tarmil @fionabradley that's why I said inform my minute taking as I wouldn't take it verbatim. I would still take my own notes but being half deaf, I have got things wrong in the past. Some of my minutes (without AI assistance) have been the opposite of the point agreed to because I didn't hear it properly.
Show threadSsaman Mardi5d ago
@fionabradley @tante To romanticize a practice whose primary purpose was to create an information imbalance and conceal systemic opacity is a whole new level of anti-ai-derrangement-syndrom.
Show threadʙᴇɴ ᴄᴏᴛᴛᴇяɪʟʟ4d ago

@fionabradley @Binder I used to take minutes for the local town council. I got told off if I wrote down stuff like “nothing was decided” or “everyone talked bollocks”.

What are you supposed to put down for a two hour meeting about the font in a leaflet?

Show threadPhilip Gillißen4d ago
@fionabradley I remember that there's also a difference between result minutes and "word by word" minutes. Usually the former is enough, AI always does the second one and then tries to create the latter.
Show threadSlightlyCyberpunk4d ago
@fionabradley ...and then instead of a single page of easily skimmed documentation you get a two hour video and a massive transcript that can't even be searched because every third word is wrong and it reads like a game of corporate-speak MadLibs...so information that used to take less than five minutes to find now takes most of the day to dig up!
Show threadNiedliche Nacktschnecke ☑️4d ago
@fionabradley
I sometimes try to read llm generated transcripts and they're always gibberish. Maybe because the venn diagram of collegues who wont form coherent thoughts and sentences, and the ai fans is a circle