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Acid i could handle rn, but mushrooms are out. You can just kinda have fun on acid, but eventually mushrooms make you face things
I can’t handle either anymore, really, but acid over mushrooms is wild to me. The amount of time, the comedown…
Sounds like it’s time for a business trip then.
I’d like to try dmt, but don’t have any connections that I trust because we’re all too old.
I wish I’d had access to DMT when I was actively doing psychedelics. Seems like it got really popular in the last few years. I had friends that were selling DMT vape pens.
DMT is great. It’s so short and forceful you don’t have time to have a bad trip. My most difficult times on mushrooms, LSD, or various 2C-x compounds were because I had time to think.
There’s no time to think on DMT. One second you’re sucking on the vape and it tastes funny, the next second every thing is melting, you have to close your eyes, and some entity is comforting you and welcoming you back, despite this being your first time.
Maybe one day… I first read about it in the mid 90s in a Terrence McKenna book (True Hallucinations),and a few years later in The Spirit Molecule. For now, I can tolerate minidose mushroom gummies at a concert haha.
It’s a very interesting substance. The short duration is a blessing, if you’re uncomfortable just wait 20 minutes and you’re sober again. You’re never going to be locked into hours of thought spirals. I’ve had more difficult experiences with cannabis than DMT.
Yeah that was always a major appeal for me, and something that has held my curiosity even though I can no longer enjoy psychedelics or cannabis.
Unfortunately you can have a bad trip on DMT. Don’t neglect your set just because it’s so short. It can get extremely intense extremely quick and you’re out of it before you manage to work it through
Maybe you’ve never had access to high quality mushrooms then? Being from a place where they can be bought in a store, quasi-legally, I won’t eat more than a couple grams of the stronger varieties, because 2 grams will already make me see sound and hear colour. And I ain’t no light weight.
But a couple tabs of acid, sure. I’ll be vibing hard, definitely acting pretty dumb. But reality will not melt before my very eyes. Might see some cool colours and what not, but it’ll always remain controllable. The problem is always the length.
Now DMT is a whole 'nuther thing. 5-10 mins of, holy shit I’m not even on earth anymore, and then BAM, back to reality. It’s quite nice.
I could just as easily ask if you’ve never had access to high quality acid.
Sorry, didn’t mean to sound condescending.
But yes I definitely have. That’s the cool thing about things, everyone can have their preferences and that’s alright.
It’s all good. People react differently too. I generally enjoyed mushrooms more, but I always found the hallucinations more tethered to reality-- nature mostly. Like seeing all the patterns and fractals in the trees or waves. Feeling the breathing of the earth. I’ve had trips on acid where I felt physically and emotionally “normal” but I had 100% visual hallucinations. Like the entire setting around me transforming into something else entirely. And not in a way that I could “shift back” away from.
That’s interesting, and I get what you mean, although I’ve definitely had similar experiences on shrooms where I was “locked” out of reality.
One thing that I’ve learned over the years is that being sound of mind is extremely important when it comes to doing hallucinogenic substances. As someone who is generally very low in anxiety, this normally is not an issue for me, but my few bad experiences have all occurred during times of emotional instability.
Yeah I’m naturally quite anxious. In my younger days, I would find relief in weed and psychedelics. At some point they began to amplify it :(
MinnesotaGoddam2 grams will already make me see sound and hear colour
Is that what it does? I already have synesthesia why would I make it worse
potoooooooo ✅️Acid is streets ahead of mushrooms in terms of intensity, for me. But I know it’s different for everyone.
streets ahead
Pierce, youre supposed to be dead
Acid lasts a lot longer than mushrooms, but for me mushrooms always included a brief bout of severe paranoia. I loved both of them, but now I would fight to avoid having to take either one. I’m just too old – psychedelics are for young, invincible people IMHO.
In the end dosage is very relevant and of course even more important: set and setting
I do think acid is more homogeneous and easier to dose appropriately though (YMMV) But the length of a trip can make it challenging.
Do heroic doses of either, shrooms for me result in more body load and are more introspective chaotic/mystic. Acid more energetic/clearer/“Neon” wider headspace. But in the end setting is what I think is most important for how the trip plays out (I had my best and worst trip on shrooms).
I guess it depends on the dose. I had good and bad moments on acid, and now I’m too afraid to take acid and have a bad trip, cause I know I should probably get over some stuff before. Mushrooms I have only taken small doses and I just got more enthusiastic in the way I was talking to friends, laughing more probably…
I know this sounds crazy but with LSD taking too little is the problem. Its not for everybody but I like taking enough that my legs get wobbly and I have to lay down with headphones on and just watch the show and have never had issues. I completely understand why someone would feel apprehensive about such an endeavor.
DMT has this reputation of taking a user too far too fast and leaving a person unable to process what happened but in my opinion ( for someone that truly wants to step out of this world ) it’s the best psychedelic because the ego can’t react fast enough to try and stop its temporary demise which is where all the trouble people have with psychedelics come from in my experience ( and it also leaves you in an instant state of slumber so there is no running in the streets naked ).
You take a hit and might have a few seconds before everything in you mind with attachments to the ego dissolves. You may remember your last thought of tring to remember what a tree is or your favorite aunts name before it all goes away and you get confronted by “something”. I don’t know what it is even though I have seen it hundreds of times it’s really not anything that can be understood when you come back but seeing “it” every once in a while somehow makes me happy to be alive
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svelteciderOpposite for me. I can handle shrooms but not acid
M137I’m to mentally stable to do acid.
we’ve run into a paradox where nobody should do acid
It’s one of the safest drug experiences though. I love taking it.
Ricky Rigatonido it anyway
I’m just too tired and busy. I had 4 tabs of acid in my psychedelic cupboard. Someone gave me more, now I have 7. One of these years I’ll get away and trip my balls off in a forest, but it’s not this year.
Why would you wanna trip balls in the forest? That’s how you become an acid trip for a bear.
You must not have heard of the Electric Forest Festival.
There are some bears, but not that kind.
I have. I figured there’s a lot of folks there. I mean more like by yourself.
Still personally, I wouldn’t. But I also have really bad luck. If it can go wrong for me, it will.
I’ve done both. Day tripping by myself in a hammock looking up at the pines swaying in the breeze, shit, I sat on the ground and just stared at lichen for a long time lmao. There’s nothing like it, incredible. But if I’d run into a bear, I’d have lost my shit lol.
I’d feel much less lackadaisical about it if I lived in grizzly country.
Ugh it’s so hard to break through though… out of 10+ times with n,n- I’ve only broken through a handful of times.
The most intense 15 minutes of my life each time, though…
I once told my buddy/plug about salvia, and in his questionable wisdom he decided that 20x extract was the way to go, because why waste money otherwise. When my turn came to partake, I managed to start inhaling as hard as I could. Not sure what happened after that, because my whole world turned into a cartoon kaleidoscope, and I forgot who the fuck I was and where. I knew that there was probably some extent of my physical being, and did the stereotypical gawking at my hands, and walked around just a bit, none of which helped in any way. About five minutes later I was back, but occasionally had momentary flashbacks to the irreality for a day or so.
Ugh yeeeep I feel you on salvia. I still have some 40x extract. I did it once and I hated it soooo much. I felt so weird, I kept hallucinating, the body load was awful, and I felt like I had flashbacks too hahaha.
n,n-DMT is the opposite of that. The body load is the heaviest of anything I’ve ever done, not even close. It smells like aliens. It tastes like aliens. You need to rip big rips three or four times in a row and hold it in to break through. Your body is SCREAMING at you to stop after the second rip. But if you manage… it’s the most actual legitimate magic thing in the world ever. Legitimately actual magical wonder. All of the jokes people make are true. I saw a color that doesn’t exist in the regular world. I can still see it in my mind and that was like 16 years ago. I don’t have the right crayons to show other people, but I do have a vial full of graham cracker-colored powder I’ve had for ages. I think it’s time to try breaking through again soon.
Or shrooms apparently between the nausea, inability to control my body temp and the crying I don’t want to do it again
Not that i stopped, and would absolutely have either if the opportunity ever presented its self again (probably not). I found that the older you get in general just makes it harder since, at least in my experience, you have way more to worry about that eats at you. Closer to death, more health issues, money could be worse than before, wife/husband and possibly kids to worry about. Stupid things i did in my early 20’s would never fly today just because I think things through way more and realize how bad those things were back then lol. Thankfully the few times i was able to do these things were all great experiences despite that, and its most likely to being with good friends who also joined.
Also, lsd lasts a LONG time, and it’s easier to find a whole day to fuck off into space when you’re younger. I’ve got a kid, I can’t get 12 minutes of free time at once, let alone 12 hours.
Exactly. Going on tour and dosing for a bunch of days and having a long enough time off to come down and just chill is not possible anymore.
Apathy TreeI’ve never done acid but I did shrooms twice and haven’t had the balls to try again.
The first time was ok, but the second time, come-up anxiety was so intense I spent the entire trip throwing up, shitting my brains out, and having a panic attack. I can’t do that again, but I’m still full of anxiety, so… nope.
Someday id like to try an extract, I’ve heard the mushroom itself is where the anxiety and gastric discomfort comes from, but yeah I’m just not really motivated in case thats wrong.
Microdosing is also great. And so cheap/easy with acid.
You might like 4-aco or AMT. Mushies have historically given me horrible tummy problems and hour-long waves of shits, but 4-aco and AMT are very similar to mushies and did not make my tummy angry at all!
Solid, I’ll keep that in mind, thanks!
If you’re interested in a comfier trip, I hope you’re able to find them someday! I was lucky and just stumbled across them via friend groups. I’ve tried everything basically… my friends all seem to like the 2c chems, but I’ve tried them all and haven’t been a fan. I HATE 25i. Hate hate hate. I spit out immediately. Ptooey.
AMT is very comfy, same with 4aco. I was a bit sad when we came down from those, and usually at the end of a trip, I’m very ready for it to be done. They both just felt like really clean mushy trips with no shitting.
5-MeO-DiPT was the WEIRDEST time I’ve ever had in my life. Insane body load, insane auditory distortion, and my only experience with temporal distortion… we were listening to a song we were extremely familiar with and the song would pitch down, our bodies would become heavy, and time would sloooowww doowwwnnn like the song was being played on a turntable at too low of an RPM. Absolutely insane feelings. I was SO happy it was over when we came down but I was also very happy I had that crazy experience.