So there is a right-wing dude on CNN saying that for 47 years, #Iran had a desire to bring about the end of the world with a nuclear weapon.

I just have to point out that the last leader had a fatwa (religious rule) against such.

From everything I have seen and read, that is a brutally oppressive regime. But still, some people seem to be flat-out lying.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatwa_against_nuclear_weapons

Fatwa against nuclear weapons - Wikipedia

@dalfen it's not entirely false (about end of times). The Iranian Islamic revolution saw Khomeini (first Supreme leader) as first of 3 harbingers to bring end of times (the other two were to be from sham/syria [i.e. hizbullah] and Yemen [I.e. houthis]). The religious theory outlines say to bring destruction to #mecca in Saudi, where then Muslims will have to March under the banner of #AlMahdi into #jerusalem to pray in #alaqsamosque. Doesn't have to be via nukes though.

@hszakher Very interesting. I know *some* about those beliefs, but not a whole lot. However, the way the person on CNN was pushing the narrative seemed false because he emphasized the nukes (perhaps trying to sway the American public ?), which contradicted what I had read about the fatwa. I wonder if now those in power in Iran might be more likely to pursue nukes, though, since that supreme leader, Khamenei, has passed.

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(also- it seems we might spell that name differently?)

@hszakher I have also read that there are factions of other religions like Christianity that are seeing the current situation in Iran and the greater Middle East in an apocalyptic end-times manner according to their beliefs. They might even be trying to push a religious narrative for the current war.

What are your thoughts on this?

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@dalfen you have 3 powerful countries (US, Israel, Iran) with leaders and big chunk (majority?) of population do believe they are fighting to bring in end of times. everybody's saviour (i.e. 1st or 2nd coming of Messiah) is the other side's villain (Al Dajjal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Masih_ad-Dajjal). I do believe (personally) that you cannot force God's hands into moving history. I also personally believe that what's happening maybe fulfilling biblical prophecies, but not the prophecies each side claims 😅 1/
Al-Masih ad-Dajjal - Wikipedia

@hszakher Oh that's interesting. Thank you for sharing the link.

I don't believe people can force God's hands either. It's not logical if God is all-powerful, all-knowing, etc. and the creator of all things living and otherwise. Why would a god like that need human help?
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That said, psychologically, it is interesting how all three are trying to push events the way they believe that they will turn out. Ultimately, it could be a bit of a self-fulfilling prophesy that causes destruction.

@dalfen the focus of "end times" may distract from other "natural" laws, such as "you reap what you sow", "no peace through war", and "you cannot accumulate debt into prosperity & abundance". I personally don't have a problem with someone quoting biblical prophecies to "predict" the future. I have a problem with selective quoting. you know, the type that brushes out the "bad" consequences of one's actions, while claiming peace and prosperity over the dead bloody bodies of people.

@hszakher There is a whole lot of that, unfortunately 😕

And interestingly, those natural laws that you quoted... I see Trump being against all of them.
1) "Reap what you sow" - there seems to be no consequences for his actions right now
2) "No peace through war" - one motto of the Trump admin is "peace through strength" and they are calling the Dept. of Defense the Dept. of War
3) "Cannot accumulate debt into prosperity/abundance" - He has said he loves debt and is the king of debt.

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@hszakher I see a lot of selective Biblical quoting from those in leadership positions... often as a way to justify their actions or to flourish them.

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