Shawn WebbTrump sucks so much at making deals he resorted to murdering over a hundred school girls. So there's that.
Because nothing says diplomacy like good old fashioned war crimes.
thedæmon (Clay Ayers) [he / him]He just said he's not worried about war crimes. Who is going to prosecute him for it anyways? Fuck this guy.
Parade du Grotesque 💀At one point, if he is still alive, of course, he may discover a transitional US government has decided to send him to the ICC in The Hague...
khmI think the US would have no problem sending Trump to The Hague if MAGA terrorists were threatening and disrupting the normal course of justice within the territories of the USA.
@ParadeGrotesque @khm @thedaemon I mean, we're not even prosecuting Epstein's associates--rather, we're protecting them. Shows you how messed up we are. (The "we" in this is a broad generalization of the entire country.)
I, however, think they'd have no problem voting for MAGA terrorists in order to ease the threatening and disruption of the normal course of justice within the territories of the USA
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I also think it's naive to assume that a country that knowingly voted for this guy, twice, is going to elect someone who's going to do that
Like... this _is_ democracy. A lot of people are dipshits. We live in a society run by dipshits elected by other dipshits.
Not to mention the past history of war crimes by every major power, literally no actively-major power has _ever_ been punished by other countries
The only force that has ever backed international decrees is _force_, and the ICC doesn't have that.
In practical terms, it's just a vehicle for larger countries to force smaller ones to their will. Not russia nor china nor the US will _ever_ be brought up on _anything_ there because the _only way to enforce it would be a war_.
Imagine regime change in the US and Russia.
It could be expedient for the new governments to send former heads of states to the ICC, instead of trying them at home.
Especially if parts of the judiciary are still under the control of die hard partisans of the former Presidents.
Likely? Maybe not. But we have seen stranger things.
@ParadeGrotesque @khm @thedaemon @lattera
> regime change in the US and Russia
Great, and _you_ want to go to war for that?
Cuz TBH if someone else invades my home, I don't really care what my feelings on the current government are, I sure as fuck am not siding with the invaders.
Who said anything about war?
Trump may be removed (big may be) by elections for example.
Putin could (big could) be removed by oligarchs and a combination of disgruntled intelligence services and military people.
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Like, really, what gets me with this is that people keep going "but but but they broke a RULE!"
great, and? Rules aren't magic. The law isn't a real thing. It's at best an agreement enforced with violence.
the eternal conflict between "the will of the people shall be the basis of the authority of government" and "I'm gonna tell Mom"
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