Visualizing the Length of the Fine Print, for 14 Popular Apps (and books)

https://lemmy.ml/post/45558675

Luckily clicking a checkbox is not legally binding with regard to such terms of service.
What is hidden in these terms is of course their abuse of your personal information, which probably is enough for plausible deniability.
But there’s a reason these companies are regularly fined in EU, and that is that their practices are often illegal, despite they “allow themselves” to do it by their own terms.
Is their ToS fully legal in the US or are parts of them illegal there too?
Do they have more money than you?
If they do, chances are you would somehow lose in court, and even if you have the spirit of the law on your side.
I wouldn’t bet on consumer protection in USA, and I’ve seen many TOS documents that were CLEARLY illegal in EU, but legal in USA. But that was back in the 90’s where I worked with parallel import of software and hardware from USA.
We were occasionally contacted because the import of software at way cheaper prices than they were available here in EU, was against the TOS.
Usually we were not contacted again after my first response to them, that they could shove their American legalese shit where the sun doesn’t shine, US law has no bearing in Europe, and the TOS containing just 1 illegal clause invalidates the whole thing here. 🤣 🤣 🤣
Thats crazy, i was expecting that just the illegal clauses would be invalid
3% people being liars seems kinda low.
Would be interesting having the GPL v3 in there for comparison.
That was my favorite part of switching to Lemmy. My Instance’s terms of service were a few paragraphs.
This is a terrible graphic, the “short” documents should be proportional to length, while they’re not.
a bit ironic that tiktok, know for the 15 second vertical videos, have one of the longest tos
We need a new sub for “data is horrifying”.
Good guy instagram is still horrible
I’ve tried to read the full terms of service before and on top of being very long, they’re overly vague when it comes to what they collect.
Yeah … not only are they long, they’re written by lawyers who are trying to obfuscate things while still covering the company’s ass legally.

Good guy VLC: www.videolan.org/legal.html

What are the usage restrictions for VideoLAN software? Short answer: there are none. You can use the software in the way you want (within the boundary of law), for personal, educational, research, military, governmental, professional purpose or any other way…

May I redistribute a piece of VideoLAN software? Yes, you may distribute an original or a modified version of a piece of VideoLAN software as long as you comply with its license terms. Most pieces of software from VideoLAN are licensed under the GNU General Public License Version 2 (referred herein as GPL). You will find a license file named COPYING in all our products.

Note: You do not need to ask VideoLAN the permission to distribute VideoLAN software!

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With my attention span, it would take me at least three three times as long to read the Microsoft TOS.

Who did they have time this shit? A speed reader?

Idk too many people who can read the art of war in under an hour either :p
This could be posted in Cool Guides.
I love it when they force you to scroll. It’s such theater.

I’m pretty sure YouTube’s TOS demands acceptance of every other Google product TOS.

If we tack those on, I wonder if it could get to the moon and back in 12 point font?

I suppose the times are reading times. Not understanding times. And especially not ‘pondering about how this will fuck me in the ass one day’ times.

That should be illegal.