Niels AbildgaardApr 6

There is a fascistic underpinning to much of the current push of "AI", c.f. the TESCREAL ideology bundle https://firstmonday.org/ojs/index.php/fm/article/view/13636

But there are definitely also non-fascistic people involved in the hype cycle. They are invariably supporting a fascistic project, yes, but they are not motivated by the fascism. Conflating these groups will just make it harder to resist the movement, to pick it apart, to turn it on itself—which I think should be our goal.

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Show threadNiels AbildgaardApr 6

I'm seeing this tendency among *some people* on here to make this a very black and white issue. Which is a common reaction when there are significant stakes, which there are. But it is seldom constructive.

In the AI hype movement we also find:
- Scam artists trying to make a quick buck
- Tech enthusiasts who stared into the eyes of Glyph's basilisk and became deluded, thinking it is making them faster c.f. https://mastodon.social/@glyph/116220257549451634
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Show threadRaymond NeilsonApr 6
@nielsa At least part of the problem as I see it is that there's an important contamination aspect - LLM-poisoned information, even people's own thoughts (Glyph's basilisk) - which puts people in the mode where the only true defense is avoidance
Show threadNiels Abildgaard
@delta_vee Yeah, you're right... and avoidance makes sense on a personal strategy. Even constructing social pressure against non-avoidance makes sense. My gripe is with people putting non-avoidance in the same baskey as fully motivated fascism.
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