RE: https://social.coop/@scottjenson/116352522288234148

shameful junk

this is commercial UX posturing 101 that amounts to the complaint that generative AI positivity does not get engagement on mastodon.

"community", "inclusivity", "bring more voices", "marginalised communities"

the problem?

Mastodon lacks an algorithmic feed that boosts AI positivity posts

"The Mastodon team is finally getting some traction" is an important phrase to consider.

Mastodon has traction. It is an internet cockroach that will out last any other current social network.

But that kind of traction is not recognised in this context because this is not a good faith post made by a serious person

Claiming the argument is not made in good faith by a serious person seems to miss the mark pretty badly. Scott Jenson does not match this description, and we should do better.

Similarly, @carnage4life does not appear to be some huge AI evangelist. [Edit: It seems I'm probably wrong here]

To me the story here is that Mastodon gives less voice to central nodes in the network, instead distributing the conversation. That may indeed be bad for journalists, but maybe good for us.
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@sab @fasterandworse here’s dare, many years ago https://techcrunch.com/2008/10/12/the-prickly-prince-strikes-again/

the guy is in fact currently a huge AI evangelist (it’s really weird to claim otherwise) with a long history of bad faith

The Prickly Prince From Microsoft Strikes Again | TechCrunch

Dare Obasanjo, a Microsoft employee and the son of a former President of Nigeria, doesn't like it when people disagree with him. I found that out in 2007 when Obasanjo vandalized the TechCrunch Wikipedia page in response to a post we wrote that was mildly critical of Microsoft's hiring of a blogger to edit certain Wikipedia entries relating to Open Office standards. His actions as an individual and as a representative of Microsoft were outrageous. Today he writes a post accusing us of "encouraging...garbage" on TechCrunch because we've reported on the market fall over the last week, pointing to three examples (out of over 100 posts last week) where we chronicle the fall of Yahoo and Google stock, and the Seesmic layoffs. A number of other blogs jumped on the bandwagon, calling for the negativity to stop (obviously none of these writers read TechCrunch this last week). "The last thing we need is popular blogs AND the mass media spreading despair and schadenfreude at a time like this," he says.

TechCrunch

@zzt @sab @fasterandworse also it's really quite valuable to highlight the political dynasty, which *directly* implies a certain taught-exposure around communications and the employment of power dynamics

to blindly argue otherwise is silly, to argue otherwise while this is plainly observable is outright foolish

Yeah, I based my judgment on the posts I have seen doing well on fedi as well as a quick screening of the profile mostly going after MTG. Clearly I was wrong here.

I still think @scottjenson is worth taking seriously, though he (as me) seemingly failed to be a good judge of character in this case. Shit happens without it being evidence of bad faith. @froztbyte @zzt @fasterandworse

@sab @scottjenson @froztbyte @zzt I *know* Scott is worth taking seriously in a commercial product context.
Gotcha - it just seemed overly hostile especially as I clearly didn't understand the discussion as well as I thought I did.
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@sab @scottjenson @froztbyte @zzt It's not common that I respond in a critical way, let alone with hostility, online. So while my words may have seemed overly harsh, the motivation to speak out against the apparent argument of the post was genuine. I can see that Scott has acknowledged the shortcomings of his thread since my critical response is one of many.