okay so what's going on with office software

the OnlyOffice mess is garden variety xenophobia that people who know better on here are amplifying, that's easy

what the fuck is going on with LibreOffice and Collabora

@whitequark as I understand it Collaobra are a company that has lots of LO long time contributors and sell support etc - they also have a (open source) web based version with collaborative editing. LO was doing that a while ago but didn't get far and decided not to continue; but when Collabora announced their release, someone in TDF made an announcement that LO was working on it again (with no new code?), and then somehow the Collabora folks were pushed out of the board as competing interests.
@penguin42 right, yes, I got that. it's the "somehow" bit that makes me go "wtf"
@whitequark Yeh I'm not sure how it happened; I guess you could say that Collabora's web based version is now a LO competitor - so maybe that's reasonable; but as I understand it it shares a lot of code, and they do a heck of a lot of the LO work.
@penguin42 @whitequark as I recall there was a comment that the rules to be a board member involved not litigating LO, and so there was a rumor that something had occurred that suddenly threw that into effect
Let's put an end to the speculation - TDF Community Blog

Ideally, we would have preferred to avoid this post. However, the articles and comments published in response to Collabora’s and Michael Meeks’ biased posts compel us to provide this background information on the events that led to the current situation. Unfortunately, we have to start from the very beginning, but we’ll try to keep it brief. The launch of the LibreOffice project and The Document Foundation was handled with great enthusiasm by the founding group. They were driven by a noble goal, but also by a bit of healthy recklessness. After all, it was impossible to imagine what would happen after September 28, 2010, the date of the announcement. At the time, nobody could imagine that the companies that had supported OpenOffice.org until then would create a project to kill LibreOffice. Also, if the project were to be successful, it would require resources greater than those available, and above all, a deep management experience. Fortunately, the project grew quite rapidly. However, the founders’ different backgrounds and opinions were at the same time the reason for some bold decisions – many of which right – as well as a few mistakes, which are the root cause of some of the current

TDF Community Blog
@penguin42 @StaticRocket hm, that makes an unfortunate amount of sense.
@whitequark @penguin42 ah, yeah way more sensible than the rumors. Still crazy that they had a deadlock in their decision to rectify something that was jeopardizing their nonprofit status for that long.