Trump’s mass deportation plan has broken the quiet of small US towns: ‘We have to take care of each other’

Immigration agents have spread into rural western Wisconsin, taking dozens of people from towns in more politically conservative areas

The Guardian
@michael_w_busch Not just abolish ICE and CPB, round up ICE and CBP war criminals. Let them face justice at Nuremburg II.

@LukefromDC

What has happened here in Minnesota and in Wisconsin is not a war.

And the state governments do not need to wait to charge ICE and Border Patrol agents for the murders; for the attempted murders; and for the assaults, kidnappings, and home invasions.

@michael_w_busch I regard it as a major battle in a low level civil war. It has been compared to the Troubles in Northern Ireland and to the Years of Lead in Italy. I've never seen so much political violence in my life save in 2020. First the Uprising, then those massive street fights with tens of thousands of invading fash after the 2020 election.

I will now speak directly from my own experience when I lived in DC.

Nov 14 2020, DC was invaded by 20,000 Trumpers with a hard core of 1,000 Proud Boys, 3%ers, and Oath Keepers as their spearhead. After their protest was over, they started assaulting random civilians. We were forced to fight them, so they had to fight us first to fight anyone else. Some of them had guns visble under their clothing, and plate body armor saved some of my friends from being stabbed.

That night, the Proud Boys tried to march on Black Lives Matter Plaza to destroy it, we launched a march of our own to intercept and block. I was exhausted and heading home when I got word and had to return. I caught up just as we intercepted the Proud Boys. A swirling fight with Proud Boys using knives and our frontline equipped with shields broke out. Afterwards, I had to escort a wounded fighter to safety. While returning, I was nearly killed taking on five Proud Boys solo as they sought to ambush me.

That's battle not protest and not supposed to happen in peacetime. What is happening now is part of the same conflict.

Federal troops invading any city (e.g National Guard in LA and DC) is not supposed to happen in peacetime. Nor is the central government's troops hunting in the street for members of disfavored social or ethnic groups.

I do not regard any of this as peace...

@LukefromDC

This is nothing like peace.

But to call it war would to me imply a symmetry that does not exist.

@michael_w_busch Most modern warfare with the notable exception of Ukraine is asymmetrical.
@LukefromDC @michael_w_busch There's a case for joining the ICC. Doesn't address the domestic atrocities, but it would set a standard for internal justice. Without that, the deeply engrained habits of normalization will likely take hold. Either the country recognizes meaningful constraints on raw power or it doesn't.
@LukefromDC @michael_w_busch de-MAGA-fication. Impeach the whole bunch and put them on trial. Then threaten El Salvador with invasion if they don't return the deported.
Investigate all police and military for MAGA collaborators that need to be put on trial, too.
Do not tolerate any more treason to the people.

@benny @michael_w_busch El Salvador would probably return Trump's hostages for nothing more than cutting off the payments they get from Trump, and sending planes to pick them up.

This whole mess is probably a leftover from the brutal US intervention in El Salvador and surrounding countries in the 1980's.