Second verse same as the first

https://lemmy.world/post/45213150

Now put me on a plane so I can put 'em in a hearse!
Exactly what I heard next too.
Bitches love cannons.

We’re at an inflection point in history, where it is of utmost importance to topple the Trump regime.

What is most important, is to maximize voter turnout to thwart the regime’s obvious plans to steal the upcoming elections.

And your contribution to this moment in history is to barf out voter suppression/apathy bOtH PArtIeS aRE tHe SamE memes.

Nice work.

Hmm, I wonder what would be more effective in driving voter turnout: Banishing certain memes on an online space with about 45,000 monthly active users, or Democrats making substantive changes to demonstrate that this cycle won’t simply repeat yet again?

Hmm, I wonder what would be more effective in driving voter turnout: Banishing certain memes on an online space with about 45,000 monthly active users, or Democrats making substantive changes to demonstrate that this cycle won’t simply repeat yet again?

So you want to drive home the idea that nothing changes, and that is how you want to contribute to the voter suppression campaign.

I predict that you will lean even harder into your efforts.

There is nothing more urgent than toppling the Trump regime. But go on, keep up the chatter that tends to reduce voter turnout.

No, I don’t want to drive home the idea that nothing changes, I want to change things, while you want to maintain the material conditions that led to the rise of this regime.

Best of luck driving voter turnout with that hogwash.

And they wonder why their comment was removed

No, I don’t want to drive home the idea that nothing changes, I want to change things, while you want to maintain the material conditions that led to the rise of this regime.

Best of luck driving voter turnout with that hogwash.

Absolutely nothing is more urgent than ending the Trump regime.

Absolutely all of your rhetoric will keep, and can be cranked out after the elections are over.

Any mooing that you care to offer in terms of what you think should be done, does not require voter suppression rhetoric.

It really is that simple. Behave in a manner that helps Trump, or behave in a manner that helps dump Trump.

If nothing is more urgent, and toppling the regime requires voter turnout, then it would stand to reason that perhaps encouraging voter turnout is key? That seems self-evident to me. And the Democrats ain’t gonna get it done by offering the same ol’ same ol’ that failed to generate turnout for Harris.

On the other hand, people could barely wait to vote for Mamdani.

Maybe there’s a lesson there.

Getting rid of trump will change absolutely nothing. Liberals that talk like this act like changing a cog in the machine will change how the machine operates. Trump is a byproduct of 50 years of neoliberal politics , they need to be protesting the system that enables someone like Trump to rise, otherwise, the version you get of him next time will be 10 times worse than this one. Which is what leftist told liberals back in 2016 would happen if you allowed Trump to win his first term, And again in 2020 when we warned that the second term of trump would be 10 times worse than his first when you nominated a neoliberal old white guy that nobody wanted

Getting rid of trump will change absolutely nothing.

You have a soft stance on Concentration Camps.

I haven’t read anything past your idiotic first sentence.

Would that be the concentration camps where the Biden administration kept putting kids in cages you’re talking about?

Or the concentration camps where the Obama and Biden administrations tortured innocent civilians from the middle east?

Or the concentration camps where more Democratic administrations than I care to name have condemned millions of mostly nonwhite Americans to forced labor in a constitutional exemption on slavery?

Absolutely nothing is more urgent than ending the Trump regime.

And this proves you’re blue MAGA. It’s all just a sports game to you.

You want Trump out just for the sake of having Trump out. There’s no plan beyond that. There’s no accountability beyond that. It’s all just “get their guy out and my guy in.” Your goal isn’t to exact certain policy goals, as otherwise that would be your number one priority. Personally, if Trump pulled a reverse Fetterman tomorrow, had a stroke, and suddenly became progressive, I wouldn’t want him out of office. Getting him out is a means to an end, not an end in itself.

And this proves you’re blue MAGA.

And this proves that you were a very slippery baby. Meanwhile, I’ll keep my elbows up.

It’s all just a sports game to you.

You want Trump out just for the sake of having Trump out.

Jesus H Fucking Christ. You are stating a goal that every human with empathy should have.

There’s no plan beyond that.

Close the Concentration Camps. Prosecute the Epstein Class. Hunter down and prosecute all ICE agents. Smash Palantir. Smash Data centers. Implement universal Healthcare.

Speak for your own limited lack of vision.

There’s no accountability beyond that. It’s all just “get their guy out and my guy in.”

The goal is to put an end to a fascist regime, instead of letting it gain momentum. Holy fuckity fuck you’re extra comfy with the status quo.

Your goal isn’t to exact certain policy goals, as otherwise that would be your number one priority.

Stopping fascism. The fascism, and the act of stopping it. Op stay the ascism fay.

My number one priority is stopping fascism.

That thing that I want again: stopping fascism.

Personally, if Trump pulled a reverse Fetterman tomorrow, had a stroke, and suddenly became progressive, I wouldn’t want him out of office. Getting him out is a means to an end, not an end in itself.

When the time to act decisively comes, just stay out of the way.

You have no actual plans or rebuttals aside from “orange man bad”. You shame those who criticize the outcomes (or lack thereof) of liberals who wield power from this insanity. Trump alone is not fascism and his death or removal from office alone will not fix the conditions that allowed him and his sick depraved sycophants from getting into power in the first place.

I expect nothing of value back as a response. I hope you screech more about the concentration camps while simultaneously sucking on the boots of liberals who helped quietly build them. I hope you tell me to vote for more fettermans and sinemas who gleefully kneecap our progress while pointing at the over-the-top style of the GOP they act as a ratchet for. I hope you tell me to be thankful the boiling pot of water will only go up 1 degree instead of 5, and that making it go down in temperature is wishful thinking. I need to know that the “sane” folks like you have it all figured out and that’s why my entire life has been American decline and end-stage capitalist hell. Just keep doing what we’ve been doing and it will be fine.

I’m trans, have trans friends, have immigrant friends, and date an immigrant trans woman I am desperately trying to protect. I hope that you, like so many liberals before you, tell me to “enjoy the camps”. Show me those true colors.

lol at quoting the entire comment of what you’re replying to multiple times. I feel like you’re just making their point more valid by saying it for them.
Democrats have enabled that regime and oppose him in rhetoric only
Democrats doing nothing to improve the material conditions of the working class is what keeps voters away. They never offer something to vote for, only against. If they offer no reason to support them they don’t deserve support

Democrats doing nothing to improve the material conditions of the working class is what keeps voters away. They never offer something to vote for, only against. If they offer no reason to support them they don’t deserve support

Cool.

We’ll just go ahead and mark you down as being in favor of keeping Trump in power.

Because that is absolutely what following your guidance would do.

Nice work champ.

You’re shooting the messenger here.

You’re shooting the messenger here.

You’re not single-minded enough for the situation at hand, which requires the removal of Trump from office.

Zero rhetoric equivocating the parties should be tolerated.

If there’s room for improvement on the Democrats side, find a way to say so without invoking Or Nothing Will Ever Change Language.

Concentration Camps.

Grasp the fucking urgency, and shift your messaging to match it.

Do you think history is a series of discrete events with no relationship to what has come before?
The US education system teaches, on behalf of the government, that every event is self contained and compartmentalized with no connection to future or past events. It distracts from incremental fascism. Much the way they whine about Putin and what he’s done without acknowledging it was the US, Bill Clinton and his government, interfering in Russian elections and getting Boris Yeltsin reelected who nominated Putin to proceed him. Or how Larry Ellison now owns a majority chunk of US entertainment and news which is only possible because of Bill Clinton telecom reform act.

Do you think history is a series of discrete events with no relationship to what has come before?

Keeping Trump in power will keep the Concentration Camps open. Removing Trump regime will close the Concentration Camps.

Absolutely no point that you care to moo about alters that fact. As such, I find your question utterly uninteresting.

It’s liberals that keep people like Trump in power, it’s liberals that put people like Trump into power by never addressing those material conditions. Democrats got the black vote in the '60s because they improved the material conditions of the black community. Now they’ve done nothing but abandoned them along with everyone else from the non-white working class

If I was a troll whose job was to supress democrat votes for these upcoming elections, I would discourage voting by selling hopelessness. First I’d try to conv8nce them that they won’t get enough votes anyway. And/or, I’d crap on the only viable alternative.

So basically I’d follow your lead.

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I’m absolutely disappointed at this moderator decision, and I’m relieved to at least have seen the comment before it was censored.

What was it?
It was lesser evil gotta vote for the blue fascist bullshit
Given the situation, what would you choose then?
The exact same decision I’ve made for decades, the best socialist candidate on a ticket.
Advocating for liberalism, lesser evil, or voting for Democrats/Republicans/status quo is not welcome here
Really makes you question whether the vibes or the backlash have any power in the world

what?

the GOP delivers every time, Republicans just never bother actually reading

dems lie constantly and spend 80% of their time middle grounding it or fixing broken shot from the last repub but how anyone can look at Trump currently and think Biden was the same is lmao

Not just Biden, the entire party. They had no issues with trump tripling ICE budget. Once they get back into power they will do very little to roll back anything Trump’s done
doing nothing or literally being a ham sammich is still miles better than the last 5 regressive repubs we’ve had
The problem is in the normalization of the policies the last Republican left, paving the way for Republicans to expand on those terrible policies once back in charge
overton window moves to the right
  • Dems win
  • Dems control nothing else, blocked at every turn
  • Dems fail to reverse some of the damage
  • voters abandon them as imperfect, choosing worst-case option
  • GoP damages things further to help their rich friends

FTFY

They are helping rich friends of the oligarchy, which is bipartisan
“Democrats arent respsonsible for their failures”
It’s always someone else’s fault
Yup. Like, look, i grew up in “the earth is 6,000 years old, gay people go to hell, and science is a liberal conspiracy to serve satan” christianity that is a core of the republican party. I despise them as much as the next guy. But for fucks sake, Dems make it very hard to support them.

Dems blocked by their own rotating villains in order to protect the status quo

FTFY

Dems control nothing else, blocked at every turn

Except… We’ve had periods where this is absolutely not true. Cycle still holds.

Stop finger wagging at the people voting and maybe address the real problem here.

And in brief periods when it’s not true, they do something that benefits millions of people and then gets dismantled over next years by the next admin. Meanwhile everyone fails to see the difference between “doing some small good” and “doing a lot of bad” and elect more evil people because the small good was too small
In the past they have had a majority with context that some of the Democrats are only with the party because 90% of the Republican platform is malicious intent.

Republicans don’t have a filibuster-proof majority in the Senate, and they’ve still been able to implement most of their agenda. They show a willingness to creatively use executive action and authority in ways no Democrat would ever dream of. Republicans ask, “what are the absolute limits of what I can accomplish with the authority I have now?” Democrats say, “well, we don’t have a filibuster proof majority in the Senate, so I guess there’s no point in trying anything.”

Where was Biden threatening to revoke school funding for schools that don’t teach comprehensive sex ed?

Why didn’t Biden stop the flow of weapons and funding to Israel to fight a genocide?

Why didn’t Biden reinstate Obama’s Iran deal?

Why didn’t Biden use rescission like Trump, and outright refuse to fund departments that were doing more harm than good?

Why didn’t Biden let private groups set up abortion clinics on military bases in red states that ban abortion?

Why didn’t Biden threaten to withhold funding from states that seek to restrict trans healthcare and other rights?

When it was clear that Trump was going to engage in a mass campaign of race-based immigrant expulsion and deny millions of immigrants their due process, why didn’t Biden rapidly move cases through the system, giving millions of immigrants a fast track to citizenship?

Why didn’t Biden use emergency authority to fight climate change? Why did he not use defense production laws to speed up the construction and deployment of renewables, as an act of protecting national security?

And on and on. Trump is moving mountains, using only the authority just the president has. He’s not waiting for Congress, as he knows he doesn’t have the votes to overcome a filibuster. Instead he finds every creative loophole he can to advance his agenda. None of these things would require Congress.

Democrats whine about the authority they don’t have. They never try to use the authority they do have. The voters see this and rightfully ask, “wait, why should we give you more power, you’re clearly incompetent and not using the power you have right now.”

Two wings same fascist bird. Both parties are owned by Israel. We need a revolution

Ok so the theory goes that the GOP is secretly occupied by the most vicious Dems, the Dems control both parties.

During the civil war, it was the northern Republicans who wanted to abolish slavery and adopt the most leftist posture. The democrats in the south seceded.

After losing the civil war, the Dems vowed to wage a secret forever war in the congress. They did this by infiltrating the GOP and gradually steering it towards rabid facism which, by comparison, made the Dems look left wing. The Dems could then push and pull the center wherever fit their aims and narrative. They could enact and enforce the most racist and classist policies by proxy of the GOP, and then ‘fail’ to prevent them as the Dems.

By dominating positions of power within both parties, they could gatekeep access to both. Shuttle the hateful extremists to the GOP, funnel the ineffective, flaccid liberals to the Dems. That’s why the Dems have been the most vocal opponents of effective leftists.

The GOP needs an aggressive coup to return it to its leftist socialist roots, a party who isn’t afraid to meet violence with violence again to counter the democrats’ subterfuge and drag the nation back towards its liberal, egalitarian and class-concious destiny.

Meet the new boss Same as the old Boss
i don’t know, republicans goal seems to be to prove that large government can’t work, by sabotaging it at every turn, and looting tax payer money by the trillions. so yes the republicans consistently deliver. and honestly the democrats have the same want, they just need to pretend to not want that, so they also deliver, slowly
Yep, should say Republicans deliver. Democrats win in backlash.
I disagree. The republicans do win on every hate filled thing they want to do and encourage. Actually running a country…did the ever even have a plan other than concepts?
3/4 of heritage foundation’s project 2025 has been delivered. Both parties continue to deliver for Israel. Could it be that it’s two wings of the same bird? I’m about to get personally attacked I bet
Then cap the money supply increases already, thats the best part of project 2025.