asieApr 5
https://s3kshun8.games/blog/flatpak-won/

This should be mandatory reading for everyone invested in the Linux ecosystem, whether you leave feeling heard by or enraged by the author.
Gabe Newell Is Shitting Yacht Money into Flatpak and You're Still Arguing about Init Systems

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@asie I think this post is good in the wake of lots of maintainers of (gui) applications being against flatpak.
I want to run a simple command to install your application, and not download an appimage which likely never ends up leaving my downloads folder.
I want automatic updates for those applications (whenever I decide to run flatpak update) instead of them doing their own update checks and bothering me with popups on startup.

I get that publishing to flathub is extra effort, but why is barely anyone building .flatpaks for their releases, when it is "close" downloading and running an appimage?
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@tea There are some programs which can't be published to Flathub, unfortunately. In particular, I'm thinking of Minecraft launchers, where old versions of the game don't run well on Wayland at all, while new versions of the game run worse on xwayland than native Wayland:

https://github.com/flathub-infra/flatpak-builder-lint/pull/935
add exception for com.moulberry.PandoraLauncher by fluoriteByte · Pull Request #935 · flathub-infra/flatpak-builder-lint

Needed to allow older versions of the game to launch

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@tea (Well, Pandora is on Flathub, but...

https://github.com/Moulberry/PandoraLauncher/commit/1db9c06e145796a5eed1020638010768e78198c1#diff-c8f792921248386552ff596b903f7cd4bb20339255d0a8d674619d6d72bda984R209)
Add warning when X11 is unavailable on linux · Moulberry/PandoraLauncher@1db9c06

Pandora is a modern Minecraft launcher that balances ease-of-use with powerful instance management features - Add warning when X11 is unavailable on linux · Moulberry/PandoraLauncher@1db9c06

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Show threadtea Apr 5
@asie but that's what I mean, why can't they put a flatpak in their release assets in addition to the appimage?
in this case I'd probably phrase the error differently since the issue is not the flatpak itself and you can enable the x11 socket yourself (I know we want to avoid the user having to do extra fiddling, but still)

flatpaks could just be a "one click installer" even without using flathub