If an astronaut sent you an email or loaded your website, could you tell from the IP or anything?
@futurebird from space? I suspect yes, but probably goes through nasa.gov IP address range.
@ai6yr @futurebird I’m way too lazy right now to do the speed of light calculations. But my intuition is that they are going back to how some stuff worked in the 80s. Cause the latency is going to be too much for modern versions of protocols. I would love to get a look at the network drawing for how they’re doing it and what protocols they are using internally
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@sng @ai6yr @futurebird one sure thing is, despite it could handle the delay, neither RFC 1149 (https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc1149) nor RFC 2549 (https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2549) would apply.
RFC 1149: Standard for the transmission of IP datagrams on avian carriers

@Vive_Levant @sng @ai6yr @futurebird those are two of my favourite RFCs! 😜

in seriousness though, #NASA has done a lot of work on delay-tolerant networking and there are several related RFCs including RFCs 4838 & 5050

https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc4838

https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc5050

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^ what??!? it’s totally normal to have favourite RFCs, shut up! 🤪

RFC 4838: Delay-Tolerant Networking Architecture

@itgrrl @sng @ai6yr @futurebird I’m sure you know, but is the rest of the fediverse aware that rfc 1149 was implemented in 2001 and a desastrously inefficient ping was successfully executed by a Norwegian LUG in Bergen ?

Desastrously inefficient success :

9 packets transmitted, 4 packets received, 55% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max = 3211900.8/5222806.6/6388671.9 ms

@Vive_Levant @sng @ai6yr @futurebird I was not aware of that experiment but the maths checks out 😜
@itgrrl @ai6yr @futurebird @Vive_Levant LOL. Yup. Have you read about the bongo drum experiment?
@sng @ai6yr @futurebird @Vive_Levant no, but I’d bet Feynman was an instigator

@sng @ai6yr @futurebird LEO? no, it's fine

The moon? 1.3s, which isn't insurmountable but sure is annoying

@astraluma @sng @ai6yr @futurebird so long as you manage to sort out the “500-mile email” problem… 🙃

https://www.ibiblio.org/harris/500milemail.html

The case of the 500-mile email

@itgrrl @astraluma @sng @futurebird Ha!

Funny story, I was attempting to figure out how to do some configuration of various Internet utilities over AREDN (ham radio mesh), and -- due to mesh and RF involved -- it pushes up against a lot of these same timeout errors. It was extremely annoying... i.e. you knew there was a node you could theoretically get to, but there was no MODERN protocol able to communicate because of those latency timeouts. I was looking to see if anyone still supported UUCP to get around the problem!! (but then got distracted, and never figured it out).