If there is no masculinity that is not an expression of patriarchy.........

If there is no such thing as non-toxic masculinity............

Then it stands to reason that the only moral/righteous gender is that of femininity, and it stands to reason that the only way for trans men to be good people is to detransition/never transition in the first place

And that, dear reader, is some TERF/TIRF bullshit.

Related.

*looks pointedly over at Talia Bhatt, who hosts a whole podcast with a whole detransitioned trans man*

@so_treu i keep seeing so many people who i didn't think were TIRFS recommending Bhatt

@forestine @so_treu first time hearing about these asshats. These girls need to read some feminist writing by someone who isn’t white woman that hates trans and queer people. Like, just start with basic ideas like hegemonic and subjugated masculinities, and subaltern masculinities and all these radfem arguments fall the fuck apart.

It also speaks to me of transfems who didn’t actually engage with feminism before transition and do the work of dealing with toxic masculinity back when the world was still trying to foist masculinity on them. I’m thankful I did, because it clarified a lot of shit when it was time to nurture and cultivate my femininity

(note: since it wasn’t clear to some: not calling the TIRF in question a white woman. I don’t know her, but apparently she’s South Asian. I spcifically was referring above to the lineage of thought and “feminism” that she’s pulling from, which is people who were largely white women who were uncomfortable with or hated trans people and queerness.)

@JoscelynTransient @forestine @so_treu OMG the white trans femmes who had zero thought for what feminism meant before coming out are the absolute fucking worst. Like “I’m here now and since I’m so oppressed you should just be quiet and let me drive.”
This entire thread is so healing 2 read. I was seriously feeling like the internet was a lost cause, re: widespread tirfism cuz like y'all said, it's folks who didn't engage with feminism b4 transitioning & think they're supreme authority on the topic bc they're white. I'm always losing my fucking remaining sanity on them mfs
@FinalGirl @JoscelynTransient @forestine @so_treu
@FinalGirl I've always described them as saying, like "hey, you guys, I've just discovered this new thing? It's called oppression! And I have it!" @JoscelynTransient @forestine @so_treu