While I do think Delve and the leadership there should be held responsible, it's a bit weird to see YC and others take shots at them for breaking the law when so many of their prized unicorns achieved what they did by being willing to just ignore laws and deal with the consequences later.
There's a sliding scale between fake it `till you make it and fraud.

Ignoring a law is different from knowingly and intentionally breaking the law, especially when that law is actual intentional fraud.

Also, there was no “endgame.” They weren’t trying to change the law; they were exclusively breaking it for profit.

Let me more clearly instead say that many successful startups knowingly and intentionally broke the law.

But I agree that Delve is a special case and should naturally be held to a higher standard here because their whole business is around being compliant with the law. When most other startups break the law, they do it to get an advantage over competition. Delve did it in a way that sacrificed their core value towards customers.

Yeah, precisely.

> Ignoring a law is different from knowingly and intentionally breaking the law

Huh? In a legal sense I'm pretty sure they're the same thing.

I ignore the law every day when I jaywalk. Technically, you’re right that that is also breaking the law. I wasn’t being careful with my words.

How and why matters, though.

> Ignoring a law is different from knowingly and intentionally breaking the law

This is something Airbnb has facilitated for a very long time, no? And Uber, back when it started.

From a legal perspective I don’t see that it matters whether you’re trying to change the law or not. You’re either following it or breaking it.

The deal is to have plausible deniability and not get caught
Can you provide examples of YC startups that knowingly broke laws and just dealt with those issues later? I'm not very aware.
Airbnb, DoorDash