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Taylor Lorenz 20h ago

Surf combines Bluesky, Mastodon, RSS, and other content into customizable open feeds on the web. I’ve been using it and love it. Let’s bring back the open web! https://www.theverge.com/tech/905929/flipboard-surf-fediverse-launch

Flipboard just launched Surf, its new social app and feed reader

It’s a product of the social web, also known as the fediverse. The idea is to make it easy for anyone to curate the content they want, wherever it comes from.

The Verge

hollow-one 19h ago

@taylorlorenz i love open web but it’s not 2008 anymore to get excited about app that wants to close it within its own boundaries to monetize on the engagement.

so to sum up I’m up for open web, but I would finally like to see Web 2.0 apps and services dying instead or rebounding

txtx 🇪🇺19h ago

@hollowone @taylorlorenz 100% this. Any software coming from a Californian/US corporation is essentially toxic to me. They only use bait and switch tactics.

@txtx @hollowone @taylorlorenz

"Any software coming from a Californian/US corporation is essentially toxic to me."

Imo judging any actor by external attributes that they either can do little about or aren't particularly meaningful to the thing being judged. Judging people by ethnicity, religion, gender is obviously toxic. Judging them by region of origin is certainly more unusual, but still toxic imo.

txtx 🇪🇺15h ago

@frog_reborn Ah yes, America, where money is religion and corporations are an ethnicity that I *must* respect and purchase from.

Not a single US CEO, from California or elsewhere, has spoken out against Trump. Many have supported him. And those people want to split up my continent. They're against me.

I don't need to care the slightest bit about US commercial interests.

@hollowone @taylorlorenz

@txtx @hollowone

No, you don't need to buy from US companies or respect the US' commercial interest. But you also don't need to act like every person setting up a company in the US is some weird automaton that can't do anything else than push the gov's or capital's line.

txtx 🇪🇺15h ago

@frog_reborn Show me the CEO that has spoken against Trump. There is none.

There are Americans doing great things that I can get behind. None of them are business leaders.

@txtx @hollowone

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/feb/04/ken-griffin-citadel-republican-donor-donald-trump-critic-white-house
https://www.nbcnews.com/business/business-news/trump-tariffs-business-leaders-criticize-trump-admin-trade-war-rcna199997
https://www.rawstory.com/shell-shocked-ceos-are-done-staying-quiet/

Billionaire US investor Ken Griffin accuses Trump White House of ‘enriching’ itself

Citadel boss, Republican donor and vocal Trump critic says administration has made ‘distasteful’ choices not in the public interest

The Guardian

txtx 🇪🇺14h ago

@frog_reborn "Griffin is a longtime Republican donor, giving millions of dollars to conservative groups during the 2024 election cycle. He did not fund Trump’s re-election campaign, but after Trump won, he gave $1m to the president’s inaugural committee."

Ok? This is what I was replying to:

"Show me the CEO that has spoken against Trump. There is none. "

txtx 🇪🇺13h ago

@frog_reborn If someone speaks against you while giving you a million dollars...weird broken culture if this is considered anything but a gag.

There's no "while" here.

txtx 🇪🇺13h ago

@frog_reborn Why, because Trump already spent that million so nothing ever happened?

txtx 🇪🇺12h ago

@frog_reborn Also, hilariously:

'Mr. Griffin, who had previously derided Donald J. Trump as a “three-time loser,” said he voted for the president-elect.'

So, he gave Trump at least a million dollars and he even voted for him.

And I'm supposed to respect these people?

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/04/business/dealbook/ken-griffin-trump-election.html

Ken Griffin, Top Republican Donor, Says He Voted for Trump

Mr. Griffin, who had previously derided Donald J. Trump as a “three-time loser,” said he voted for the president-elect.

The New York Times

Of course not

No, because these things happened after another and people can change how they feel about things

txtx 🇪🇺11h ago

@frog_reborn Fair enough. Either way, if this guy is representative of anti-trump business leadership in America, then it's not enough for me to change my mind. Obviously, we disagree on that. That's ok!

hollow-one 13h ago

@frog_reborn @txtx

Well that stronger anti capitalism and anti US-corporate whatever comes from @txtx so I get this "no you don't need to buy from US companies..." is more applicable to that gentleman.

I'm more anti Web 2.0 app encapsulation for something that:

- is an open standard how to consume so having one best client that definitively tries to sell the same enclosing formula is not what I prefer. I'm not on Mastodon to be engaged in more than what I already subscribe natively in the mastodon app(s) ecosystem already in place. I find hacker news/lobste.rs fomrula of news aggregator much more attractive. I like web applications than apps.. I don't install mobile apps any more, mobile should be for calls not for screening time as my personal approach and all what made mobile toxic is to me originated from Web 2.0 going mobile.

Basically if I'm anyhow opinionated anti to something.. this is my preference. American or not. doesn't matter to me :)

And in the age of AI I can write better app than flipboard in no time for all of that bullshit.. SaaS and Apps are dead to me. Software should be free and open. Selling it directly and indirectly will die eventually towards agentic workflows that will create them on demand, so I don't bother either.

I have already eliminated lots of alien software this way.

txtx 🇪🇺13h ago

@hollowone Just to gently push back, I'm not against capitalism. It's the specific US corporate software culture that I don't support.

I avoid North Korean or Russian products too.

hollow-one 13h ago

@txtx @frog_reborn I think we're all tired being a product. that's what I call a drive to kill web 2.0 too.