@stux Watching as systemd throws in userdb and just whatever else the dev feels like on a whim and most distros just comply, locking any discussion down without changing anything I start to wonder, if a Mastodon dev on the main source started putting stuff like that in, presumably even the forks would pick it up. Would individual servers, as a whole, take steps to remove it? Oh a few would for sure, I mean as a whole.

I don't see any movement from any mainline distros, nor most of the bigger ones to actually move away from systemd despite how dangerous it's going to be in the future. Mostly I see little distros or even things popping up mostly for show.

FOSS is a bit exploitable in that people just don't want to change once something is set I guess?

@nieuemma @stux

Most people don't seem to care.

Seems that's how it always goes. A deeply embedded component adding a user database that's way out of scope for what it's supposed to be doing for no apparent reason whatsoever and most just shrug, ignore it, or even defend it...

I think most distros are just going to ignore it and let it happen.

(The defenses are weird too. Mostly "systemd is convenient, so people should stop talking about other options." What???)

But I didn't really mean to make this a systemd conversation. I just meant to say that changes like that get put in and just... happen. Everyone just sort of ignores it or even opposes fixing it. If Mastodon's devs suddenly decide to add all that stuff, will everyone start forking and fixing it?

@nazokiyoubinbou @stux It is a scary thought. Mastodon isn't an integral part of every "normal" Linux distro like SysD is, so I'd hope we have a higher chance of fighting it off here.

I know there's also MissKey, which I think is supposed to be like Mastodon, and I'm sure there are plenty of forks I've never heard of. Maybe there'd still be somewhere to go.

I think being federated means moving elsewhere would be less difficult, but I'm not super sure.