RedditsuxTrump Says the U.S. Can't Pay for Healthcare or Daycare, Only War
10 years ago, a statement like this from ANY potus would have turned into a month off front-page freakout. Now? It gets a one-second shrug.
Fuck. Where we are now. So quickly.
The Velour Fog Not even 10 years ago tbh… If Biden said this when he was president, Republicans would inexplicably become the number one advocates of healthcare and childcare and screech endlessly about him being a warmonger for several news cycles.
It’s not “10 years ago,” because it has nothing to do with time passing. It has everything to do with Republicans doing a coordinated and concerted capture of all media.
It goes away because they want it to - the silly non-news used to stick around for a month because of their manipulation. It’s important to remember and talk about this widely
Just. Start. Shooting. Them.
Big strong scary words behind an anonymous handle. You sound real tough.
The toughest thing you could do would be to write an op-ed and publish it under your real name and talk this tough.
You can’t. You won’t. Sit down.
We all agreed on what to do with Nazis 80 years ago. When did you change your mind?
Coward. Did you write your op-ed under your real name yet big scary tough guy?
Show us the way with your big strong words
We all agreed on what to do with Nazis 80 years ago.
Sneak them into the USA to work as high level civil servants and scientists?
I don’t think that will really help now, tbh.
Excellent point.
Remember Mustardgate? I do and I’m not even American…
baronvonjMaybe, but in my entire lifetime (certainly more than 10 years), Republican POTUS can say or do literally anything they want with little to no actual repercussions at the polls. I feel 100% confident that Reagan could have said this, his policies were doing this just not so explicitly stated. Bush Jr got the USA into war over false pretenses and it took many, many years after his presidency was long over before public opinion shifted slightly on the topic in terms of realizing how wrong it was.
wonderingwandererWhat was the actual quote?
Like, I know trump sucks and absolutely says these things with his actions, but…
MeidasTouch is one of the most clickbaity, reactionary, and misleading excuses for “journalism” that we have on the left. The kid does a good job going head-to-head with conservative pundits on televised news, but I don’t take any of their headlines at face value, especially because they all tend to be inflammatory and are often no more than speculative.
I’m not giving them the web traffic to see if there’s anything of substance behind this headline. Anyone who did, care to share the direct quote?
CharlesDarwinI doubt it would have applied to the cons.
IOKIYAR.
Newt and his team have been working to divide America since at least 1990. Actively. And it gets little mention. Meanwhile, plenty of reactionary centrists and nearly all of the mainstream media and of course the unhinged right wing would say things like “Obama is divisive” as some kind of serious analysis.
Meanwhile, the cons have been intentionally trying to divide. And were not called on it every single day, as they should be.
The GOPAC memo “Language: A Key Mechanism of Control” is something every American should be aware of, but I bet maybe 1% are.
So if earlier asshole GOP POTUSes were to blurt this out before, it would probably get bothsidered and downplayed back then, too.
I can’t help but feel so sorry for all the Americans. No one deserves this. He’s gambling with so many lives of innocent people.
Before Trump I didn’t know democracy would be so delicate.
DiplomjodlerGreetings from Germany. We have known for a long time.
I am from Germany and I love a lot about history.
I meant modern democracy in a much more globalised world where Information on the internet is free. I once assumed no one controls media so much, apart from North Korea, to be able to propagate another reality.
My mistake was not taking into account how big tech and ai follow political agenda, making people question reality, coupled with targeted marketing, changing history and education and superhuman persuasion.
By the way, when Germany goes to shit as well, (again) because of AfD, having known will not help anymore.
The annoying thing is those of us that know what is going on feel like we’re screaming into the void.
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MrVilliamTruly behavior fitting of the recipient of the inaugural America First and FIFA Peace awards.
And 40% of Americans still think he’s Jesus Incarnate.
Jesus got nailed to a piece of wood. Maybe they should follow through.
They want Jesus, they want the end times. It’s a damn death cult.
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mycodesucksDon’t worry, everyone.
The Treasury just declared the US is insolvent. We can’t afford the WARS either.
No matter how insolvent, the USA is always going to be able to afford more war.
FoniWell it looks like I’m not going to be able to pay my taxes this year.
I hear so many people make that statement. I realize most are just making a flippant “joke”.
Not paying your taxes, assuming you owe any federal taxes, is a recipe for a whole heap of trouble and expensive if you’re working class. This isn’t VISA where you can basically just ignore the debt for X number of years and then you’re in the clear. The federal government has considerably more options for getting the money owed.
Eventually the IRS would garnish a person’s wages, yes? For someone self employed, that wouldn’t exactly be a viable option I suppose. They could put a hold on someone’s bank accounts and whatnot if garnishment isn’t possible.
You’d need to transition to a cash based lifestyle to circumvent this. Difficult to do in today’s world.
Yes. Wage garnishment is one tool they have. Granted, debt collectors have that tool as well, it’s just that the federal government can do it much more quickly and easily.
I’ve had 2 family members, that I know of, over the years who decided they weren’t going to pay their federal taxes because they didn’t like who the president was. Both of them regretted it.
Yeah it was a flippant joke 😭
government can’t come for you if your tear it down and build a new one
And unicorns can’t fart if you steal their butts!
TropicalDingdongYeah its a good thing that never in history have governments, sometimes of the largest economies and some the most capable of projecting force, its a good thing that never in history have governments collapsed, been replaced whole cloth.
Its a good thing thats never happened, otherwise your sarcasm could be mistaken for a deep, toxic, counter productive cynicism.
Oh I don’t know. Maybe just pick any of them. Perhaps most recently, that one weird event which resulted in the formation of the nationstates Armenia, Azerbaijan, Belarus, Estonia, Georgia, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Latvia, Lithuania, Moldova, Russia, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, Ukraine, and Uzbekistan.
I think there is just an expectation of a certain level of political and historical literacy when you are having a conversation in a news or politics forum.
PoastRotatoSeems like a great way to discourage the folks who need that knowledge from requesting it
You don’t hop into a league football match and then ask the other players on the bench what the rules are. Maybe read the wikipedia first, or just sit in the stand till you work the basics out.
Except this isn’t a football match. It’s real life, and the more people we have who are armed with knowledge to make wise decisions, the stronger our position. A spectator’s knowledge of football won’t influence the outcome of the game. You can’t exactly say the same about this.
Its just, its such an obtuse take. People are just asking you to put out a mediocre amount of effort to educate yourself, and your argument is basically “No, its the comments sections job to teach me political science”.
This isn’t about arming or positions, this is about “did you think for a second before you asked that?”
If you need that knowledge you need to go to elementary school, dont learn it on the fediverse lol.
I’m assuming that’s people who don’t realize that you’re not unicorn dude
Bro it’s every government that ever existed before the current ones. He’s not referring to specific historical events. He’s referring to the entirety history of humanity. It’s like asking “which people” when someone says “people have died.”
vaultdweller013China does it ever couple hundred years, the Roman Empire by its end in the 1400s had been effectively reorganized dozens of times and could hardly be considered the same state, Britain and France more or less collapsed to their core territories by the 60s, the Spanish and Portuguese Empires imploded economically before being picked apart by the Dutch and newly independent colonies. I could go on but those are the big ones where the empires in question had notable territory loss or effectively reorganized in totality, there’s a couple smaller examples like with Sweden becoming Insular or how Islam transitioned from an imperial institution in a lot of ways into a religious one, but those examples rarely are as impressive or went on for centuries without any real turning points.
Just for an extension you can ask six months at a time if you dont owe more than a few thousand they wont mind it’ll get autoapproved
I’m not convinced tax evasion even hurts the government. Taxes gives currency value via scarcity, but currency also gains value through contracts made on that currency. Taxes is just a contract where everyone is automatically enrolled. As long as there are enough other contracts operating on the currency and the contracts are still enforced, the currency will retain value. The government also isn’t at risk of going broke since it can literally print it’s currency then increase interest rates to stop inflation.
Still hurts you of-course, but it’s a meaningless sacrifice.
btsaxI know you said this as a joke but there are tons of legal ways to avoid taxes.
-Contribute to a retirement account or health savings account
-Create a business around one of your hobbies and deduct all your expenses for that hobby
-Purchase certain treasuries or municipal bonds
-Bribe a government official