YouTube Premium is the best $10 I spend per month. Nowhere else can I consistently find the sort of niche content that interests me.
I prefer newpipe for $0/mo
I prefer Tubular

Do you know how it compares to LibreTube[1]? For the SponsorBlock integration; it works well for me, but I kinda miss the newpipe interface.

[1]: https://github.com/libre-tube/LibreTube

GitHub - libre-tube/LibreTube: An alternative frontend for YouTube, for Android.

An alternative frontend for YouTube, for Android. Contribute to libre-tube/LibreTube development by creating an account on GitHub.

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I've never tried LibreTube. I am used to the new pipe interface and had all my subscriptions managed their so the move to Tubular was easy.

nowhere near comparable experience if you want to seamlessly use your YT account across a TV + phone + computer

i'd rather pay the $10 than pay with my time by being an ad-block whack-a-mole diagnostician

> ad-block whack-a-mole diagnostician
that is being done as open source community efforts now: NewPipe for mobile, SmartTube for smart TVs etc.
All you have to do is update them once in a while

For those of us who are too cheap to pay the subscription:

On my iPhone I almost never see YTube ads. I don’t use the YTube app and instead I install Chrome and watch YT that way. I lose notifications—which is perfect for me, since I don’t want many notifications on my phone anyway.

This might also work in Safari but I haven’t tested it.

On Android, Firefox with sponsorblock. I do pay for Premium though. In since YouTube Red.
It's not comparable, it's superior! The youtube app stinks! And I don't care about "seamlessly" using it across my devices.
I mean it’s just $10. People are making livelihoods based off from YouTube. I get not liking ads, but if you have the option to go ad free for a low cost, why not do it? Do you pay for any of Netflix, Paramount, AppleTV, etc.?
I refuse to give google any cent (and I also do not use youtube at all, so at least I’m consistent).

> Do you pay for any of Netflix, Paramount, AppleTV, etc.?

No.

Edit: I do pay $5/mo for PBS

I would prefer to pay that money to creators directly than to pay it to an adtech firm and trust that they'll dole it out fairly.

>if you have the option to go ad free for a low cost, why not do it?

It requires the use of a google account and there is no way to even request opting out of the accompanying data harvesting. Any "curation" or "recommendation" that would inevitably happen is also an anti-feature.

>Do you pay for any of Netflix, Paramount, AppleTV, etc.?

No

I find that all of Google’s ad products are under-moderated for malicious ads. It’s a choice on their part to not tightly control this—they certainly could, though it would harm their incredible profitability if they did more scrutiny on the ads they show. I personally don’t especially care to pay a premium not to see deepfakes of celebrities promoting crypto scams.

More channels are fighting for attention though, so finding more channels are "creating buzz" or "news" based on mediocre information ie. taking things out of context and making unwarranted conclusions or blowing things out of proportions for clickbait titles.

"This changes everything!!"

Getting youtube fatigue.

I heavily use the "Not interested" and the "Do not recommend this channel" options a lot and don't click on clickbait, and use the DeArrow extension, and this way my front page looks quite good.

At this point you’re doing almost as much work as if you handpicked a few channels and put them in your RSS reader.

Algorithms are sold as “curation is hard, the algorithm does it for you” but getting the algorithm to do a good job is actually a lot of work

That’s not an argument against the comment you responded to.

If I just took any random 20 creators I’m subscribed to on YouTube, the premium membership fee, which includes YT Music, is more valuable than any of the other streaming services.

The only other streaming service I’ve been a paying member even longer than YouTube is di.fm

I also occasionally pay for a few months or bassdrive.com and or soma.fm

For movies / series, I’m back to sharing.

Disabled recommendations. Disabled comments (firefox plugin). Use subscriptions page as the homepage (firefox plugin). Only subscribe to channels that interest me (and aren't annoying like that).
The browser extension "DeArrow" is well worth a look.

I've started putting together a curated directory of (subjectively) good YouTube channels and videos [1]. It's literally the 3rd day, so not many entries yet, but I plan to continue growing it like I did with Minifeed [2].

1. https://skyshelf.app/

2. https://minifeed.net/

Fully agree. There is so much good content and being ad-free is just a really great experience.
uBlock origin + SponsorBlock has a much better price to performance ratio imo.
I'd pay that, but it's about $22 in my country...
Youtube is also pretty boring though. I mean, there are ton of interesting content and quality content too, but the stuff that gets recommended, the "hype stuff" is full of false information, clickbait, tweaked reality to conform some narrative...
This is the only downside. You really need to curate good content.
I don't know about everyone else's experience but I find Youtube to be pretty good at finding interesting content, especially for music. Curation is necessary but it does work.

Works fine for me recommending interesting educational and edutainment content.

I'm quite aggressively removing videos I don't like from my watch history, or flag "don't recommend" channels I know won't be for me. If I'm not careful it'll recommend crap for a while.

Agree, their algorithm sucks, I wish I could have more freedom to customize it
Agree! So many great genuine creators, but the algo keeps pushing only clickbaity shit
Everyone was a genuine creator but was corrupted at some point. It will happen to your favorite creator too.
I have a friend that sends me lunatic fringe videos every day that youtube recommends. It's tiring
Youtube charges $10 per month and doesn't produce a single video. It's an amazing money maker for them and the only media subscription i pay for (to avoid ads on TVs). They should quit it with the Shorts though, nobody likes those

> Youtube charges $10 per month and doesn't produce a single video

It is different from Netflix (that pays upfront for production costs), but there's of course a revenue share + the bulk of the revenue for creators is actually from sponsorships (which YT doesn't take a share of).

They get paid to display ads, and they get paid to hide ads. What a fantastic business model.

I'm also in the same bucket, happy to pay my subscription.

I used to be vehemently opposed to shorts, but with recommendations disabled it is tolerable, because only shorts from people I subscribe to are in there.

The only reason I really watch shorts is because Vsauce started using them a lot, and his content is definitely worth a watch every time in any format.

And they steal all the content for AI training. You couldn't buy their archive for all the money in the world.

These seem to be the main relevant insights from the "Adults' Media Lives" report [0] (and they are backed with some good quotes from the participants):

> Participants claimed to be streaming more and viewing less linear TV. This is part of a medium-term trend we have seen over recent years. Participants also reported more of their viewing as being on their own, with less shared/communal viewing overall.Many participants claimed to be viewing more YouTube, in particular, in the past year. For some men, YouTube is now their main (or only) form of viewing.

- p 20.

> Whilst in previous years YouTube was predominantly being used to access specialist content around users' personal interests, it now also seems to serve a broader range of viewing needs. These include “background” viewing (sometimes as a replacement for daytime TV) and videos about random, eclectic, interesting topics – serendipitous content discoveries traditionally associated with linear TV channels.

- p 21.

[0] https://www.ofcom.org.uk/siteassets/resources/documents/rese...

"UK adults’ media and online lives revealed"

Adults are the focus here, not men.