Stamau123Rocket lifts off with four Artemis II astronauts on a mission to the moon and back
I’m having a hard time getting excited about repeating a mission that wasn’t even the best thing we did over 50 years ago, except this time with computers and 1000X the budget.
We did it more times after and helped research greatly. It’s like 2% military budget to run NASA so fuck anti-intellectual bullshit.
I’m not anti-intellectual, I was a true space kid, watching every mission after 1965. I was a Apollo 11 super fan. I built models of the Apollo 11 and the Lunar Lander. I kept a subscription to national Geographic for decades because they had such great space photos. I should be loving this.
But it’s pretty obvious that all modern space exploration is mostly about giving future trillionaires an option to get off the planet when we inevitably turn on them.
HuudaHarkitengiving future trillionaires an option to get off the planet when we inevitably turn on them.
I say we should help and support them in this project in every possible way. Lets help them get to Mars or Venus. Sound awesome. I would love to read the headline “Elon Musk landed on Mars” and then never have to think about that guy ever again.
No, they don’t get to trash this planet, then go to a new one, and trash that. If anything, make them stay here and choke on their destroyed atmosphere, while we escape.
I think you are vastly overestimating the possibilities of living outside of earth. I would argue that theres no way in hell for any of the people alive today to be able to live on the moon, Mars or even LEO comfortably. The rich arseholes won’t change the literal paradise the earth is for the hell of Mars. If they manage to make Mars look like the earth, with vast oceans, breathable air and whatnot, sure. But that’s just not going to happen. The trillionaires are not going want to live in a greenhouse, on a desert on Mars.
Fact is, humanity is stuck here for the next few hundred years at a minimum. So yeah, lets eat the rich and use the money they have accumulated to fix the planet. Once we’ve done that, we can look into doing something on Mars.
I hate to break it to you, but MASA’s goal is to establish a permanent base on the moon. Space X’s public plans have ALWAYS been to get to Mars, and establish a permanent base there. This isn’t science fiction, these are business plans, and they are already well underway.
The NASA moon base is planned to start before the end of the decade, so they aren’t waiting very long. Judging by past NASA projects, it will take far longer that that, but it is out of the planning stages, and well on its way. They have astronauts up there in space right now.
And Space X is making progress, although they are concentrating more on their satellite deployments, because that will create a massive revenue stream that will fund everything beyond. But you can bet that if Musk sees us getting close to landing on the moon, he’ll re-prioritize his focus on Mars.
The future space races won’t be just among nations, it will be against Sociopathic Oligarchs, too, with entirely different motivations. And those Sociopathic Oligarchs cheat, so expect some dirty tricks.
There are no rules in space, anything goes.
I know what NASA’s plans are.
But like I said, no billionaire or trillionaire is going to live COMFORTABLY in the moon or Mars anytime soon. In a few centuries? Perhaps. But not in the next 70-100 years.
Hate to break it to you but the NASA base is not going to be some sort of luxury hotel where people can just go. Its going to be a very uncomfortable and cramped scientific laboratory.
You are missing my point. I agree with you, space bases are going to be pretty sparse for a while, but the Sociopathic Oligarchs don’t see it that way. They are picturing Dubai, Vegas, etc., and they have nobody around them to question that vision.
They’ll have trade with Earth, and other bases, probably forever. No country is an island, all of them have to have trade with each other. No country on Earth is entirely self-sustaining, and bases on the Moon or Mars will be no different. Goods will be expensive, but that’s okay, they can afford it, so gouge the shit out of them. Who cares if a Big Mac is $1000, they can afford it.