Mastodawn

RE: https://neuromatch.social/@jonny/116324676116121930

Incredible thread.

Answered some of my questions about what people think the future will be if everyone codes like this. It seems to be: instead of thinking about constraints of any kind or "what is the most efficient way to do Y or the most readable way to do Z?" answer the question, "what is the most brute force way to perform X if I pretend that there are no resource constraints and nothing needs to make sense as long as I see some sort of test passing? Just ship it with spaghetti code.

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F 1d ago

@timnitGebru
What I keep seeing in the LLM user space is that it's not just test passing (they don't care about tests) but does it have "product market fit". (Found that lovely term on a pro-LLM blog)

As long as the software gets to X, Y, or, Z; the users don't care about how it works behind the scenes or what the externalities are. It could half-ass work and people will wind up using it anyways (and pay for it even).

Claude Code is a living example of "people will pay money for software that has shit code behind it because it 'works'; Quality, morality and ethics be damned"

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Jared White (ResistanceNet ✊)

@zm @timnitGebru Not really. Claude is wildly subsidized. Nobody would be paying for it if they were charged what it actually costs to run (thousands of dollars a month, not hundreds).

Lots of people also use it because they're forced to. Their employer demands that they do so.

One of the ways to win against the slopagandists is to stop playing their hype games. All of these agentic services are *far* less successful than are claimed.