đź§µ AI-generated soul music by "Eddie Dalton" is taking over iTunes, YouTube, and Spotify--raising the question of where humans think beauty and art lives.

Software-made music has gotten so good now that 97 percent of people cannot differentiate it from human-made music.
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Eddie Dalton isn’t real, but what does that mean?

Computer-generated soul music is taking over the internet, raising questions about where humans think art lives

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Eddie Dalton had 3 of the top 5 Apple Music songs, and all of the songs released on YouTube have hundreds of thousands of views within just days.

People absolutely love it.

"This song has touched the depth of my soul," one listener wrote on YouTube.

You can listen here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=az5FSZzm-k8

Another Day Old (Official Lyric Video)

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The music literally hits all the right notes. And it's why RIAA and a bunch of studios and music groups are suing the AI services that people are using to make these songs for theft.

It's a valid concern. But on the other hand, so much popular music is already mechanized w/autotune & beats.

And if you are a musician who doesn't fit the corporate mold, you'll never get anywhere unless the algorithm gods rescue you.

In a study commissioned by Deezer, 80% of respondents said they wanted AI music to be labeled as such. But only 45 percent said that they would automatically filter out AI tracks.

According to Deezer, 35% of daily uploads are entirely AI-generated.

So what do the ppl who make AI music say?

Telisha Jones, the creator of a No. 1 R&B persona named Xania Monet says that she writes all of the lyrics herself, and that's what people like.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUBhjOToIC0

Creator of AI artist says there's "a real person behind Xania" amid controversy

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All of this raises lots of questions, where does art live, and do people even agree on that?

It seems that many people value art for how it makes them feel, while the history and the struggle of the artist are what attracts others.

Should only beautiful people be allowed to make music?

Must history, conception, technique, execution, and performance all be conjoined? What is art for? Are the feelings we derive from it any less real depending on its circumstances?

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Eddie Dalton isn’t real, but what does that mean?

Computer-generated soul music is taking over the internet, raising questions about where humans think art lives

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@mattsheffield I remember figuring out what a *completely different* experience it was ... hearing songs or seeing art when I actually had a clue as to the experiences behind it.

@mattsheffield

I mean, it's needle drop.

Like, don't get me wrong: there's a composer who makes a couple hundred thousand a year literally listening to this and shitting their pants, but I listened to as much as I could stand (about a minute) and it was just needle drop.

You know - generic, unimaginative, cheap-o background music. Trite, formulaic, expected, sterile.

You play it behind the DeVry University commercial because they refuse to pay for real music.

Needle drop.

@mattsheffield

"AI" is *garbage technology* that is *derivative*, as in everything it makes is straight-up derived from something(s) human beings made.

When you try to train them on other "AI" created stuff they break. Badly.

Because they're *garbage* that makes *generic, averaged-out garbage*. For the low, low cost of all of your freshwater, global agriculture, and the future of your kids.

And yes - there are lots of people who cannot distinguish needle drop. Taste, amirite?

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@mattsheffield

I was going to say that "AI" might be able to replace needle drop composers, but tbh this is *bad* needle drop.

I worked in advertising for 20 years, and would not have selected this for $750 and an in perpetuity global license.

@johnzajac @mattsheffield “ai” “art” is as creative as an oil refinery. Just shove more isobutane into the alkylation unit. Forget the rest. 🙄

@mattsheffield

See also:

https://pivot-to-ai.com/2025/11/13/no-fake-ai-music-bought-onto-a-minor-chart-is-not-actually-popular/

The AI boosters have been pulling marketing stunts trying to 'make fetch happen' for a while - call me skeptical at this point.

No, fake AI music bought onto a minor chart is not actually popular

Sometimes a song just comes out of nowhere and does great! But also, there’s well worn paths to buying your way to a small amount of public attention. And these ways have been common as long as the…

Pivot to AI

@mattsheffield aside: subjective outputs coming out of genAI has a significantly different context to (supposedly) objective outputs coming out of gen AI.

When there is no need for genAI outputs to be objectively correct (e.g. 2 + 2 = 4 according to defined axioms), the picture looks different.

I don't have an easy way of mentally reconciling the following personally:

1. a human person learning music and organically creating music which necessarily has been influenced by how they learnt music and their lived experiences.

2. a gen-AI tool processing musical inputs and generating music which is necessarily informed by inputs and randomness inherent in the gen-AI tool (for sake of argument lets say authors of the inputs were suitably financially compensated)

3. when some people (I'll put me in that category) listen to music, I don't typically have an appreciation of the background of the artist. I'll also disclose that I haven't been looking for AI music.

Is it as reductive as - a gen-AI tool is less creative because it can only blend inputs? And then its a matter of incremental improvement & expanding inputs until creative equilibrium is reached.

Conversely looking at it from the outside from a purely utilitarian viewpoint, why spend all the effort, resources and externalities into making music when we already have musicians?

@mattsheffield

“Should only beautiful people be allowed to make music?”

Woah, hold your rhetorical horses buddy: What’s this “allowed” business?

Anyone *can* make music, you just open your mouth or grab even the most rudimentary instrument. *Making* music has been an intrinsic part of the human experience (at least) since the dawn of our species.

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@mattsheffield

What you’re referring to is much more insidious and recent:

Who is allowed to *profit* from music? Who is allowed to enclose this most fundamental human activity? Who gets to mine this most social thing, wall it off, and commodify it? First we culturally strip people of the making of music, and then we extract cash from them as they seek to fill the void.

In removing the person from the “artist” the music industry exposes itself for the sham that it is.

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Milli Vanilli all over again