@theleftistlawyer

every time i hear originalists word playing the constitution and claiming to know what the founding fathers "meant", what i hear underneath is this, from alice in wonderland:

`Then you should say what you mean,' the March Hare went on.

`I do,' Alice hastily replied; `at least--at least I mean what I say--that's the same thing, you know.'

@theleftistlawyer "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside."

Regarding that "and subject to the jurisdiction thereof" my guess is this was intended to exclude American Indians, who would have been considered belonging to their own nations but not the US at that point. What's your take?

Anyway.... it seems like every US-born child of immigrants has now a motive to get a speeding ticket, just to prove they're subject to the jurisdiction of the US.