Fritz Adalis7h ago
Pierre Bourdon

So I guess @opencollective is basically dead, huh.

Now on top of asking users to pay for a "platform tip", they're also taking money from the other side and charging fiscal hosts and collectives absurd monthly fees.

And while looking into this I find out that they started working on a "new web3 branch of Open Collective" according to https://github.com/opencollective/.github/blob/main/profile/README.md

I guess they have to shovel money to Anthropic to slopcode Persona integrations?

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Show threadPierre Bourdon7h ago
I guess it's time to look at self-hosting as a stopgap, but realistically given the direction I expect them to go either closed source or full slop within months-years so heh.
Show threadJos（ユース）7h ago
@delroth @opencollective Do you know if they have a proper announcement for the new fees? I just had a terse email dropped into my inbox that explains very little
Show threadJos（ユース）7h ago
@delroth @opencollective Wait, apparently the email I got says it's effective starting today? wtf
Show threadPierre Bourdon6h ago
@JosJuice @opencollective yeah, even though when I last looked OC were saying orgs created before March would be grandfathered into the old pricing...
Show threadOpen Collective5h ago
@delroth @JosJuice We tried to reach affected Organizations per email last July and more recently in March, and got constructive feedback since then. Our official statement was shared here: https://opencollective.com/ofico/updates/updated-pricing-for-organizations-designed-for-long-term-sustainability Please reach our support to share your concerns, we're listening. https://opencollective.com/contact
Updated pricing for Organizations, designed for long-term sustainability - Open Finance Consortium

TL;DR: We are introducing a new pricing structure for Organizations. We have already been in touch privately with all impacted Organizations. The new model replaces percentage-based fees with a usage-based...

Show threadJos（ユース）4h ago
@opencollective @delroth If I'm interpreting the new rules correctly, it is true that the organization I administer can use the $0 plan. Still, it's very unexpected for this kind of change to come into effect without any prior notice being sent
Show threadOpen Collective4h ago

@JosJuice @delroth We are sorry, we only proactively reached Organizations that would be on a paid tier. But we only relied on the public announcement for others.

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Show threadPierre Bourdon46m ago

@opencollective this statement is corp speak at its worse.

> Instead, pricing is based on the operational load placed on the platform, making it more predictable and more closely aligned with real usage.

Expenses have a $1 operation cost for OC? Really? It's a checkbox form where OC is literally doing nothing, the collective is reviewing, the fiscal host is doing the transfer, when it's automated it's using the fiscal host's Wise account, etc.

Show threadPierre Bourdon42m ago

@opencollective this is such a giant bait and switch and I don't think you realize how much trust you're burning there. It's extrement disappointing, OC was really a force for good. But I guess you just had to be greedy and decide that 15% platform tips and whatever % is collected on host fees isn't enough...

For now I guess we'll self host since it's not like OC was providing us much operational value anyway (other than like... sending emails, I guess?).

Show threadOpen Collective4h ago

@delroth It's a bit complicated, but the platform at opencollective.com is from a different team and legal entity than the web3 project. We tried to explain that in our blog post announcing the move to a non-profit in October 2024 https://opencollective.com/ofico/updates/a-new-home-for-the-open-collective-platform-same-mission

Thanks to good feedback from people in the community, the Persona thing is now gone.

A new home for the Open Collective Platform. Same Mission! - Open Finance Consortium

As just announced by Pia on the Open Collective Blog, we are excited to announce some changes at Open Collective and th...