Been thinking about this: https://bsky.app/profile/jay.bsky.team/post/3micpg7z2h22g

> we also dislike AI slop. this is why we’re using AI to generate code, not content.

It's a philosophical distinction but one I feel like I don't get. Maybe it's because I like livecoding, etc, and see code itself as a form of art. Is AI code *not* slop in a way that feed content is?

And will vibecoded apps with Attie be likely to insert AIgen content?

Jay 🦋 (@jay.bsky.team)

we also dislike AI slop. this is why we’re using AI to generate code, not content. feel free to block @attie.ai though — it’s a separate app so you don’t have to use it

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I think game developers especially (and I do game dev sometimes, sometimes even for work) tend to perceive code and art as interrelated and intertwined things. I find it unlikely that they can be easily separated.

I suppose some may see form vs function, but I personally see form *as* function.

@cwebber Paul's reply here has been living in my head.

https://bsky.app/profile/pfrazee.com/post/3mid65y6jws2j

I fundamentally can't understand this position. Pinning all your hopes for free and open computing on "open models," a thing that doesn't meaningfully exist, is so confusing to me.

But this does appear to be dogma for them.

Paul Frazee (@pfrazee.com)

As I said elsewhere I am basically radicalized about this. We fight now for personal computing and personal agency or we lose another decade to closed clouds We push now for an open internet and open models. Nobody is going to hand it to us because they’re nice

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@mttaggart @cwebber open models do exist and I've been kicking the tires with a few but have not attempted to use any of the ones for code generation. They are definitely less sophisticated than the top of the line LLMs from what I have seen but that is unsurprising given the usual comparison between scrappy FOSS and highly resourced proprietary software https://osai-index.eu/database/
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@ehashman @mttaggart @cwebber there are some capable open models. My poorly documented journey is here

https://ai-skeptic.bress.net//

I’ve been too busy lately to do anything interesting, but it’s pretty fun learning

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