Does anyone here have any experience running or even just attending a community space that's a kind of drop-in art studio/creative workspace? Like somewhere that has a bunch of different art and craft supplies and tools, you can take your own project, you can speak with people there, learn new skills, try the stuff they've got, etc.

I'm interested in knowing what activities went on there, how you ran it or what you got from it as a participant, etc.

 

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I've had loads of great replies to this, thank you everyone who took the time - I'm going to need to sit down and look through all the links I've been sent ^.^
@welshpixie not me but @pastagang @TodePond and @yaxu been talking a lot about this kind of stuff of late
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I've been thinking a lot about what a friend pointed out - that mixed gendered spaces often quickly become male-exclusive because men tend to have much higher tolerance for arsehole behaviour than women, so it only takes one dodgy person to destroy a community as all the women basically leave. Once such a community has heavy male bias it can hardly recover, and its lack of representation means it can hardly succeed in any social, cultural or technical aims. Rings true for the extraordinarily bad gender balance in free/open source software in the context of the Stallman report.

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@junklight @pastagang @TodePond @yaxu very true - the space I'm at, all the volunteer and paid staff are fem, the one guy at the top is masc but takes his cues from the others
@welshpixie not the same thing, but the bike collective in town here is like that, for bikes. I think the model is the same. There's an experienced old guy who hangs out volunteering to help newbies learn skills and get to know the equipment, as needed. Some people just come in and use things on their own. Some stuff for sale. People drop by with donations. Truly great thing they have going
@independentpen Nice! Yeah, the place I'm talking about for this also wants to get back into running a repair cafe but approaching it a bit differently
@welshpixie i think you're thinking of creating a #hackerspace but make it arts
@welshpixie Cambridge Hackerspace here, they have quarterly repair events for the public etc: https://www.cambridgehackspace.com/ (not personally involved, just been there a couple of times). I would suggest emailing them, they seemed very friendly.
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@welshpixie sounds very much like a lot of hackerspaces.

@welshpixie the folks at Dallas Makerspace are probably worth reaching out to.

https://dallasmakerspace.org/

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@welshpixie the cricut machine was the most popular. Followed by the sewing machines. We also did watercolor classes.
@welshpixie the big problem is staffing. You either need the money to pay staff or a large enough volunteer pool. We had neither.

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Nottingham Hackspace has a craft section! I never went to the space all that much so can't say much about how it was used, but they have (or had) sewing machines and screen printing, and shelves full of bits and bobs.

@welshpixie I was a founding member of one of Chicago's hackerspaces. Also briefly on the board.

Depending on what point in the space's history we're talking about, activities ranged from electronics and fiber crafts to 3D printing, woodworking, and hot metals. There was eventually a kitchen area, so of course that meant cooking and beer brewing (Beer Church, every Sunday). There were lots of events run out of there, by and for the members (primarily).

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@Avner @toba I guess in Chicago it's a bit different, I'm up in a small rural valley in Wales - how did you get people to start coming and using the space?

@welshpixie @toba we didn't lease a space until we had enough paying members to afford one, so it was less "build it and they will come" and more active community building.

I don't remember getting people to use the space being a problem, though cashflow certainly was at times. There was a price hike, at one point, and I'd be surprised if they haven't raised prices again since then.

Part of the answer was having people organize events regularly, and not being dicks to new folks.

@welshpixie @toba ooh, I just remembered that there was a scanning electron microscope there! One of the nearby universities was getting rid of it, I think, and one of our members diverted it from going to the landfill. No idea if it's still there, but I think at the time it was one of only a few in the world that wasn't owned by a university or corporation.
@Avner @toba thank you! This particular thing is a space that exists already that was supposed to be a community space with side cafe but most of the focus went to the cafe and now they can't get funding because funders look at their site and go 'oh it's retail' so they want to push back into the hackerspace direction
@welshpixie @toba as for what I got out of it: community, a place to work on projects, access to tools and supplies I wouldn't have access to otherwise, not to mention people who would teach me how to use them. It was also, frankly, pretty chaotic and suffered from a lot of the downsides of the hacker culture at-large, but it was a really important place for me when I was involved and I'm happy that they're still around.
@welshpixie @ShaulaEvans Iโ€™ve attended a space called living museum, maybe that concept is a bit like what you describe? Itโ€™s not completely drop in, you have to sign up, but afterwards you can come and go as you like
@welshpixie @ShaulaEvans East End Arts (in Toronto) runs programs in multpile locations but many take place in the small St. Matthews Clubhouse in Riverdale Park. It seems much is programmed, not drop-in, but have a look:
https://mailchi.mp/e1f687f40251/march2026-eeanews1?e=55479802bb
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@welshpixie here in Dublin new have a circular economy project called Rediscovery. Bike repair, upcycled clothing and education.
@welshpixie I think @quecey has some direct personal experience there
@welshpixie @glyph Iโ€™m kind of peripherally associated with Spark Studio Salem, which is kind of what youโ€™re talking about, sounds like? Check out https://sparkstudiosalem.com and see if that resonates, if it does, I can say more.
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@welshpixie it's a lovely thread! Am in a slow conversation with a friend about setting this model up. She's done a lot of ad-hoc crochet meets in others' venues. Her hook for this is a "clothes swap cafe", bring people through the door, provide a small flow of income (tea is a quid, swaps are free, sell a few customised pieces as art)

I'd like a venue other groups can make their own, offer storage space for kit, provide basic infrastructure (machines for sewing, dye sub printing, tools for lino, etc). Reckon a subscription model for this, a bit like hackerspaces - a cheap monthly rate but for groups, rather than individuals

Hackerspaces ... are lovely for the people in them, many have craft areas, but their communities aren't motivated to be welcoming ( with some solid exceptions like @DoESLiverpool )

https://craftypirates.org.uk/ministry_of_imagination/ - there's almost nothing here, we'll move hosting soon, set up a wiki, it's a slow-burn, big-picture plan :)

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@zool @DoESLiverpool ahh nice! Space is a bit of an issue here. There's a downstairs kitchen, not sure how big, where they currently make paninis and jacket potatoes. The upstairs is an L-shaped room, cafe on one side for maybe 20-25 people, a tiny kids play area at the back, board games, shelves with local art for sale. The other side is vegan sweets and their zero waste refill station with barrels of detergent, herbs and spices, grains, etc. Then one other small storage room.
@zool @DoESLiverpool but it's the front half of what used to be the library (which has moved now), and the back of the building us entirely disused - not sure who owns it or if it's an option to expand into, if it would have to be bought, etc
@welshpixie @DoESLiverpool have an old acquaintance i need to reach out to, has a consultancy now that helps people figure that out - imagine a suave, elder ex-investment-banker reassuring landlords and negotiating peppercorn rent on long-term empty commercial properties. I don't know if they expect anything from that effort, other than entertainment value and sense of purpose during retirement. Definitely need to learn more :)
@zool @DoESLiverpool ooh that sounds interesting!

@welshpixie @zool Can you use some of the existing space for occasional events? Before we started @DoESLiverpool we just ran a monthly #MakerNight event at the uni, which let us gauge interest and, more importantly, started building the community of folk who then became the volunteers who set up the business, took a lease, etc.

The artificial (not really artificial, as volunteer time is scarce) scarcity of one-evening-a-month (or similar) draws people together to gain the initial critical mass

@welshpixie @zool I think it's also useful to see what the start of a space looks like, rather than comparing to established spaces. The "makerspace" when @DoESLiverpool started was a 3D printer and a soldering iron. Now even just the fibre arts room has a couple of knitting machines, sewing machines, overlockers, CNC embroidery, coverstitch machine, & more, but that was all acquired over time and based on the interests of the (evolving set of) members

@welshpixie @zool @DoESLiverpool w.r.t. rural Wales, I don't know how far south the Ffiws makerspaces got - https://www.ffiws.cymru/en/

@concretedog would be useful to chat to on that front; he's helped out with the ones near him in N Wales.

They were/are(? I've not kept track of things) a funded model, which I don't think is a useful approach. Lots of (well meaning) folk will tell you to apply for funding, and they'll be wrong in the same way that applying for VC is the way to do tech ๐Ÿ˜‰

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@amcewen @welshpixie @zool @DoESLiverpool FFiws is pretty much dead... most are closed down and the lack of funding means there aren't even people about to alter the websites! SHite! #ToxicFunding! The one in the building I am based in still operates a bit due to me and a couple of others. But they are limited by their structure and their insurances. Funded first is a naff way to build this stuff! Deffo mobilising and building community first is the way!
@welshpixie sort of yes. A friend hosts a printmaking workshop in a shared studio space (which i attend). There aren't really supplies and tools, except that, by kind arrangement with the workshop facilitator, some of the kit other studio users keep there can be used (e.g. palette knives, scrap paper, maybe a small press and/or stock art paper). Strict rules on cleaning / mugs / fridge. The space is booked and hired for money, even when you are a member.

@welshpixie not sure if you are still needing info but I am a member of the Maker Space at MadJax (https://madjax.org) We do a weekly maker hang, there are regular classes on how to use the gear, and it is a place for local events.

I have access to 3d printers, a glowforge, a wazer, cricut, large format printer, vinyl cutters, a wood shop, a welding shop, and there is even metal machining tools that no one knows how to use... yet.

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@welshpixie Our public library system has art and crafts drop-in activities: https://halifax.bibliocommons.com/events/699f1bf5b48451fc3c050bb5
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There's a store in Bendigo, which is a town around 2 hours away by train from Melbourne, Australia.
They have a trained seamstress come in, and help you with whatever project you have for an afternoon. You book online, pay in advance. There's a bakery next door to grab lunch before you start, they offer tea + coffee, and a large area with tables, an ironing board/iron + an overlocker. You bring your own sewing machine.
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@welshpixie I found it helpful, but the afternoon went so fast! Because it's in a store, if you need something, you can just buy it, but thankfully, no pressure to do so.

There are also library makerspaces in Melbourne, which are well equipped with sewing + embroidery machines + overlockers + fancy iron + all the accessories eg scissors/pins/thread etc. You need an introduction re: OH & S, then you wear a lanyard every time you're there. Usually open around 10-6 mon-sun with at least 2 staff.

@welshpixie The makerspaces are free, a great resource, and fantastic for meeting people doing creative things. Much costume making, sweet things like grandma from india coming in, to make her granddaughters outfits, a girl with archive funding to make a quilt with the names of women from the archives who died because of botched abortions/births, dude patching his jeans because he's rather spend money on holidays etc etc.
Funded by the city council.
https://www.melbourne.vic.gov.au/makerspaces