I'd like to take this opportunity to remind everyone, especially Americans, that you can travel by train, bus, or ferry. And there are a couple of good apps that help you find routes, times, and prices

https://www.wired.com/story/skip-the-tsa-line-where-to-find-travel-by-bus-train-and-boat/

Skip the TSA Line: Where to Find Travel by Bus, Train, and Boat

These apps and websites find bus, train, and ferry tickets when you want more options than flying to your destination.

WIRED
Americans' distaste for bus travel is truly classist, and I hate it and will do everything in my power to turn it around
@jilleduffy I don't think it's distaste... I think it's stigma.
The idea of "only broke people who can't afford a car", "high crime / dangerous", and then the true idea of "outside of major cities, bus and other transit service usually sucks in America"

@Starcross

My objection to public transit is that, in the suburb where I live, it takes forever to get to your destination that way. Like, 3× as long.

Otherwise I suppose I'd use it more often.

I also wonder how exactly one would carry a week's groceries on a bus. That's enough to fill a car's entire trunk, and it's heavy too. Even if I had a big cart to carry it with, wouldn't the size of it offend other bus riders?

@jilleduffy

@Starcross

I've heard some people say that they visit the grocery store every day instead of every week, and that's how they get around the problem of carrying a lot of groceries on a bus. I guess they use a baby-stroller-sized cart then, which would fit comfortably on a bus.

But that would take even more time, because now you incur the extra travel time 7× as often.

Maybe that'd be okay if people only worked 4 hours a day and had plenty of free time, but they sadly don't.

@jilleduffy