✧✦Catherine✦✧this is the most unhinged question from the life in the uk test yet
Manfred@whitequark Fun fact: This is why women's suffrage didn't happen in Switzerland until 1971. Swiss women did nothing to support Britain's World War I effort due to Switzerland's neutrality.
@mandelhorn well I learned something about switzerland
robryk@mandelhorn @whitequark That year is the year when the federal law started requiring cantons to allow women to vote in federal elections and referenda (I'm unsure if cantons could do that earlier). The latest canton to let women vote in cantonal matters was Appenzeller Innerhorden, and that happened in... 1990, after being forced to do so by federal court.
@robryk @mandelhorn what the fuck
@whitequark @mandelhorn
That's a consequence of giving cantons as much autonomy as feasible (the general rule in Swiss law is that by default regulations happen at the lowest level of administration possible, down to ~county level) and of the political system being biased towards being slow (e.g. a separatist movement in Bern in 60s/70s caused a new canton--Jura--to be created; the whole process took a decade+, and there's still a question of one town that became an enclave that will change cantons any year now).
The "decisions at lowest possible level" thing was arguably helpful at least once (when iodine deficiency was understood and the introduction of iodized salt started very locally and then rapidly expanded due to the extremely obvious effects), but it also created this situation~.
That's a consequence of giving cantons as much autonomy as feasible (the general rule in Swiss law is that by default regulations happen at the lowest level of administration possible, down to ~county level) and of the political system being biased towards being slow (e.g. a separatist movement in Bern in 60s/70s caused a new canton--Jura--to be created; the whole process took a decade+, and there's still a question of one town that became an enclave that will change cantons any year now).
The "decisions at lowest possible level" thing was arguably helpful at least once (when iodine deficiency was understood and the introduction of iodized salt started very locally and then rapidly expanded due to the extremely obvious effects), but it also created this situation~.
@robryk @mandelhorn oh no I know about the Swiss direct democracy. the "what the fuck" refers to the degree of misogyny
@whitequark @mandelhorn
Ah, you mean that there was enough misogyny concentrated in one area for that to happen? Yeah. To be fair that canton is something like 20k people large.
Swiss society sadly still has various social properties that are not misogynistic per se, but very readily amplify that (e.g. various ways in which one parent or even one partner in a couple is encouraged to stay home). I think that's clearly improving in larger cities; am unsure about countryside.
Ah, you mean that there was enough misogyny concentrated in one area for that to happen? Yeah. To be fair that canton is something like 20k people large.
Swiss society sadly still has various social properties that are not misogynistic per se, but very readily amplify that (e.g. various ways in which one parent or even one partner in a couple is encouraged to stay home). I think that's clearly improving in larger cities; am unsure about countryside.