Zach WeinersmithNow and then there's a headline about an AI musician going huge on some platform. For me the most fascinating thing is that when this happens, and I look up their album or singles, their songs are almost identical. Not like when you say "all of ACDC's songs are the same." Like, they're just tons of tiny variations. Check e.g. the singles by the AI named Eddie Dalton.
Or there was another popular one called Breaking Rust, I believe, who was a sort of modern hardcore country singer. Nearly every song began with him humming, in the same cadence, followed by the same bluesy percussion. And all were some variation on the theme of being a tough guy who doesn't care about other people's opinions. Like, dozens of these songs.
And with this sort of thing I always wonder whether it's that they're (a) gaming the system, or (b) discovered something humans actually wanted all along, in some sense, but which artists would've never produced.
I mean maybe we really just want Oasis to play 83 slight variations on Wonderwall, but they wouldn't.
Frosch B@b_age I dunno, like, some of these are really popular as far as I can tell. And, in my experience, people who aren't into this stuff can't tell AI from real. Or, just aren't trying to.
@ZachWeinersmith to be honest, i can't really tell, i don't listen to that kind of stuff. i just can't imagine people are that ... gullible? there must be some rigging involved
@b_age For me the AI voice tech is still not there. Like it really sticks out. But maybe if I didn't know it was AI and it just came on spotify I wouldn't notice?
@ZachWeinersmith i already disliked mainstream-, radio-style music before "AI" came up, so i don't have a good base for comparisation but still think i can recognise that generated stuff, because it being so arbitrary, exchangable
Trantion@ZachWeinersmith @b_age I heard that it's often "popular" because the creator is using bots to "listen" to the music enough to get a significant proportion of the streams in a specific musical genre
Petra van Cronenburg@trantion Exactly this. And you can cheaply buy packages of followers, likes, or reviews, meanwhile made by KI bots. @ZachWeinersmith @b_age
@ZachWeinersmith We don't know if such clicks are generated by real human fans or by bots, only curious people, or something else.
My physiotherapist plays such slop for a calming atmosphere because he can't afford the high royalties the collecting organisms take from therapeuts. You can hear it, it's like blubbering mud. No breathtaking, no different emotions in the "voices".
Patients accept it because we know that therapeuts are so badly paid (France). Many clicks. 1/2
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My physiotherapist plays such slop for a calming atmosphere because he can't afford the high royalties the collecting organisms take from therapeuts. You can hear it, it's like blubbering mud. No breathtaking, no different emotions in the "voices".
Patients accept it because we know that therapeuts are so badly paid (France). Many clicks. 1/2
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@ZachWeinersmith 2/2 Then happened the music accident. The slop in endless repetition "hallucinated" into a mix of calming "Yoga sound" and death metal. 🤣 You could hear the patients cry out loud in different rooms. And it was like a virus ... death metal came back .. in the calmest moments ...
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Daniel Gibson@NatureMC @ZachWeinersmith @b_age
this is hilarious :D
I find (some) death metal soothing, but alternating with wildly different music won't help
@Doomed_Daniel Imagine you’re there to have the after-effects of whiplash treated, lying on the massage table waiting to relax, when suddenly some headbanger bursts in. 😈 😂 @ZachWeinersmith @b_age
Angela Carstensen@NatureMC @ZachWeinersmith @b_age
Some people do find death metal very calming 🤘🥰
Enola Knezevic@AngelaCarstensen @NatureMC @ZachWeinersmith @b_age I hate when they (doctors, dentists, hairdressers) play music, any music. If I want music, I have my own headphones/earbuds. But I prefer silence and when I listen to any music it is active listening. It is not a background to life. But slop: everything I heard, regardless of the (attempted) genre, was unlistenable.
At a doctor's office I also wouldn't want music playing in the background.
@AngelaCarstensen Reminds me of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bmI90xiWLM
Ylvis - Improvised hidden radio at the dentist's office (Eng subs)
@rhelune With my dentist panic I would leave at once, even if I don't understand a word. 😱 🥶
@NatureMC @AngelaCarstensen That's why I do not like pranks, even non-malicious ones. Ylvis first pranked people, then asked for an apology with a bottle of wine, but some people said that the prank had brought up their trauma. Luckily they have stopped doing pranks since.
(If you turn on the subtitles you are gonna see that they are scaring people about local anaesthesia used by the dentists 😱 )
@rhelune Well, the dentists allowing this were a-holes. @AngelaCarstensen
@NatureMC @AngelaCarstensen Agree, regardless of the presents for the pranked.
@AngelaCarstensen @rhelune Fortunately, it's calm at the doctors. It's playing in the massage rooms of physiotherapy, and I suspect more for the therapists who do a very hard job the whole day.
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is streaming real music more expensive than slop on spotify? I thought it was a flatrate?
or are there streaming services for therapists with different pricing models?
@Doomed_Daniel If you play music in public, independent from the technics, you have to declare and pay it at GEMA. They are a collecting organism for (real human) musicians.
There are laws for playing music in public. A therapist's rooms or a clinic are not private.
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There are laws for playing music in public. A therapist's rooms or a clinic are not private.
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GEMA also exists in France? I thought it was German
How does it work? If you stream random playlists, do you really have to keep track of the actual music played and report that to GEMA? What if you play oldschool radio?
@Doomed_Daniel Please read Wikipedia about it. There are different collecting organisms depending on the countries. Yes, GEMA is German, in France we have the SACEM. You find their rules on their websites. @ZachWeinersmith @b_age
Willow Brook 💜@ZachWeinersmith @b_age
The unfortunate thing is that every media interaction can be botted now. Views, likes, comments. The only way you can tell is if they go up extremely quickly. Nobody's getting a million streams overnight or whatever. If they're getting Kanye numbers, something's up.
Sometimes comments can also be suspect. If usernames look generated or the comments are, like you say, slight variations on the same thing.