Why do people recommend Jojo's when it's so slow paced and bad? Like Dio is an asshole and he's fun to watch, but that's about it for me. Nothing happens. It's just action figures going bonk, and the author doesn't even provide any groin based bonking.

But like it's just a guy and another guy! And the one guy punches the other guy. And sometimes it gets weird like with the little guy in the other guy's ear and a third guy has to punch him reeeeeeally carefully, but. It's just plot. It's just things happening. Do people care about the things happening? Is it supposed to be funny?

What do people see in this show??? 

@CheetahFluff I tried watching the original JJBA and uh ... yeah, I agree? It's vaguely amusing because you're trying to figure out WHY you're watching, but ... it never actually gets better???

I dunno. I'm probably not the target audience of Menacing Pose Shounen Fashion Runway Show Twonks but you're not wrong that even the plot is "and then we punch them."

@itspomf That's exactly it! That was my experience! Like, "why am I supposed to like this????" I was watching it while sick with my spouse, so we couldn't do much else, lol. It was so confusing.

And like, I like menacing fashion boyz beating each other up! One Piece fills that niche for me a little, but it has a lot more going on. There are so many other anime out there that do absurdity better, that do action better, and that have an actual plot at the same time! They don't do aggressive posing as well as Jojo's, but surely that's not the biggest selling point of this show. Surely that's not why this series got so popular. Maybe it got popular for ending episodes on "Roundabout." That was a pretty good choice.

I just can't imagine someone approaching Jojo's and enjoying it for absurd action, and not also enjoying a bunch of other anime.
@CheetahFluff total segue, but I kind of felt the same way about Deathnote when everyone I knew was insistent that it was some amazing thing.
@itspomf Deathnote was amazing when I watched it as a teenager. It was just a bit of silly fun when I rewatched it as an adult, but it also became something I wouldn't easily recommend to others after that point.

Someone else in the thread agreed I got into Jojo's a bit late and that that probably affected my ability to enjoy it. Getting into Deathnote after it was big, or after a certain age, would definitely affect one's ability to enjoy it. You have to suspend you disbelief in some big ways to have fun with it.  

I will say, as confused as I am by Jojo's, I've never had a more intense aversion to a popular show than in Re:Zero. I truly hated that one.
@CheetahFluff oh jeez, I think I saw that one on ANN and noped out real hard, since all the other video game isekais burned me hard.
@itspomf I had only seen SAO by that point. So I'd seen one bad isekai, and wanted to know what people thought a good isekai was. It did at least manage to do something interesting, unlike SAO.

But the interesting thing it did was make me distrust my male peers. The protagonist is supposed to be relatable but he's just evil. This is what they thought relatable was? This guy who treats other people like tools? He gets a redemption arc! But I don't care! Way too many lines were crossed! His shame should lead him away from these poor people forever!

In the end, I did not see a good isekai.
(until reincarnated as a slime, that was a decently fun little thing about community and togetherness and the protagonist was a lot more mature)

@CheetahFluff I think you nailed it at that last bit there: too many isekais are for extremely immature (and insecure) little shits with behavioral problems, and I get turned off from them so quickly.

Maybe it's slime time.