to be absolutely clear: if you come into my mentions complaining about the systemd birthdate field, i am going to tell you to fuck off.

i do not care about this. it does not interest me. spend the energy complaining to your local politician, i am not that person.

and, to be clear, i am 1 trillion % more disinterested *because* bryan lunduke was the person who broke the story.

stop doing what he wants you to do.

@ariadne oh come on, this is straight up fashjacketing. one can be annoyed at systemd being bootlickers without being a fascist (im a communist). So like, I have to be okay with it so I'm not doing what this rando fash wants?

@zyd bryan lunduke is a fascist, so it seems appropriate to fashjacket him.

if you want to defend alt-right maga/linux chuds, do it elsewhere.

@ariadne No I meant fashjacketing people who are against (or complaining about) systemd for this and among other reasons, not lunduke. Fuck that piece of shit.

@zyd all i am saying is that you should keep the fact that lunduke is the one who broke the story in context.

and perhaps empathize with engineers who are being told to do things by their lawyers.

some hills aren't worth dying on, an optional field in a schema is certainly not a hill worth dying on.

@ariadne I'm really not going to empathize with Red Hat employees (among all the others who employ Linux kernel and systemd developers) People with lesser social status and money have made even more significant political stands against things in the past, but programmers can't say no to even minor moment of state compulsion

Talk about pathetic if not expected from em. Personally, it's not a hill I'm gonna die on. I'm still gonna regrettably use systemd until I move on to something else. The world doesn't have to have systemd, it's not a big deal at the end of the day. Anyway, not gonna bug your mentions anymore. Apologies for coming your way aggressively (realized I kinda did that looking back at my replies).

@zyd look i am just saying that harassing engineers is not going to fix the problem.

if you want political change, you need to convince your local politician

@ariadne @zyd this is basically like shouting at openldap people because they deliver ldap schemas that include attributes to hold PII.