A common argument from AI stans is basically mysticism: “we don’t really know how it works therefore it must be alive and have a soul”.

Dude, first of all we know how it works, human beings created every step of LLMs, and the didn’t imbue it with life like a golem, it’s just applied statistics.

Secondly just because you personally find it mysterious and unknowable doesn’t mean it’s magic.

@thomasfuchs Sometimes when I encounter this, the stans are conflating not knowing what weights represent with 'magic', I believe in a few cases (in person) I've successfully parlayed their position into "It's important to humanity to understand and audit these weights so the system isn't opaque." It's rough out there though, I don't want to have those discussions with an llm, or a zealot who is defending their belief system/does not want to understand how the system works
@userdevice it doesn't help at most chatbots are zealots that are based on yourself—because they agree with everything you say there's not much point in trying to discuss anything